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Tobin S.

(10,418 posts) Wed Oct 30, 2013, 05:06 PM Oct 2013

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I think forgiving yourself is the hardest kind of forgiveness, my dear Tobin... CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2013 #1

It seems unlikely that the people you actually need to communicate with are in this group. HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #2

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So this is about how you see the possible needs of others HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #5

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It is a good topic for the group. Denninmi Oct 2013 #4

CaliforniaPeggy

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1. I think forgiving yourself is the hardest kind of forgiveness, my dear Tobin...

Reply to Tobin S. (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2013, 05:25 PM

Oct 2013

I've made more than my share of blunders and even though it's been decades since they happened, I have not been able to let go of them. I just don't know how.

And they drag me down.

I hate feeling this way, and I see no way to change it.

If only I could forgive myself...

HereSince1628

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2. It seems unlikely that the people you actually need to communicate with are in this group.

Reply to Tobin S. (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2013, 06:18 PM

Oct 2013

I sort of get that you are seeking validation to help you go forward...but really that's your decision making domain.

There really isn't anything available here that should change your assessment on what you should do.

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HereSince1628

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5. So this is about how you see the possible needs of others

Reply to Tobin S. (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:56 PM

Oct 2013

and your desire to get out a message that offers some sort of solution to some people who maybe have a problem that needs the message.

Ok, I've got it now.

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Denninmi

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4. It is a good topic for the group.

Reply to Tobin S. (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:18 PM

Oct 2013

Because extreme self loathing, shame, and guilt seem to be common issues for people with many types of mental illness. Perfectionism and black or white thinking play into the mix, too.

We here on DU MHS are a great group of people, I would wager to say of high moral character and wisdom due to our ability to survive grueling situations. So it is ironic when we view ourselves as losers or worse. Having a neorobiochemical condition is not our fault in any way. Radical acceptance, as well as self-kindness seem to be the tools to dealing with this. A lot of CBT.