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hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:33 AM Nov 2013

Pie crust for vegetarians?

I always made my pie crust using lard and butter. I need an alternate to the lard. I don't want to use any hydrogenated vegetable oils ( Crisco), so I'm looking for a natural shortening solid at room temperature. I was thinking coconut oil, but the consensus here is that the coconut flavor will come through.

Any suggestions?

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Pie crust for vegetarians? (Original Post) hedgehog Nov 2013 OP
No substitute needed for the butter? Just use more butter... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #1
Use extra virgin coconut oil? rdharma Nov 2013 #2
An all butter crust pscot Nov 2013 #3
Are you looking to avoid all animal products? BainsBane Nov 2013 #4
looking around, I saw one recommendation to add the buuter in two portions - hedgehog Nov 2013 #5
Now butter - salted or unsalted? hedgehog Nov 2013 #6
Unsalted butter is usually recommended for baking. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2013 #7
Use olive oil. GoCubsGo Nov 2013 #8
the crisco formula was changed some years ago. grasswire Nov 2013 #9
There is a canola pie crust recipe locks Nov 2013 #10

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. No substitute needed for the butter? Just use more butter...
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:01 PM
Nov 2013

I used butter alone for years since commercial lard is half hydrogenated vegetable oil anyway and leaf lard is impossible to find.

BTW, Crisco claims a new formulation and is trans-fat free and otherwise relatively healthy now, or at least healthier then butter or other brands of hydrogenated oils, so why not...

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
2. Use extra virgin coconut oil?
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:04 PM
Nov 2013

This makes a delicious, flakey pastry and I have had many favorable comments on it.
•3/4 cup fat (1/2 solid coconut oil and 1/2 butter or all coconut oil)
•2 cups organic unbleached all purpose flour
•1 teaspoon salt
•3 - 4 tablespoons ice cold water

Cut the coconut oil and butter into the flour and salt with pastry blender or two knives. Add the water 1 tablespoon at a time and mix well.

Roll out on floured board. Pastry is very tender and may be partially rolled around rolling pin for ease of picking up to place in pie pan.


http://www.freecoconutrecipes.com/index.cfm/2010/8/6/coconut-oil-pie-crust

I've never tried this recipe. In fact, I always buy pre-made frozen pie crust from a local baker. So take this recommendation with a grain of salt.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
3. An all butter crust
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:14 PM
Nov 2013

seems to give me the preferred result. I've tried various combinations. With either lard or Crisco we seem to get more uniform, tender crust rather than flakey. It also seems like the dough is a little harder to handle.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
4. Are you looking to avoid all animal products?
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:16 PM
Nov 2013

I can't be of any help in that case, but I know the french make their tart crusts with all butter. Pate brisee, Pate sucre, etc. . http://warmandtoste.com/pate-brisee-pate-sucree-pate-sablee/

This recipe for pie crust is from Martha Stewart

1 1/4 cups all-purpose flour (spooned and leveled), plus more for rolling dough
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon sugar
8 tablespoons (1 stick) cold unsalted butter, cut into pieces
2 tablespoons ice water, plus 2 more, if needed

Directions here:
http://www.marthastewart.com/344292/our-favorite-pie-crust

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
5. looking around, I saw one recommendation to add the buuter in two portions -
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:30 PM
Nov 2013

first, add about half and mix until you get a corn meal texture. Then, roll the remaining butter to 1/4" thick, and add that rather than chunks of butter to achieve a flaky, tender crust. I think I'll try that!

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
8. Use olive oil.
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 01:47 PM
Nov 2013

There are a bunch of recipes for olive oil pie crusts. Just google it. Here's one that uses whole wheat flour:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/18/health/whole-wheat-mediterranean-pie-crust-recipes-for-health.html?_r=0


On edit: The link also includes a gluten-free version for those interested in that.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
9. the crisco formula was changed some years ago.
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 02:39 PM
Nov 2013

If you eat a cake from the grocer, you are eating crisco frosting. A lot of people don't know that.

Anyway -- I have always used crisco, and have been a professional pie baker and won awards.

Just saying that a Thanksgiving pie made with crisco isn't going to hurt anyone. Nothing to be afraid of.

locks

(2,012 posts)
10. There is a canola pie crust recipe
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 03:38 PM
Nov 2013

on food.com. I used to make crusts using oil and milk; it's easy but not quite as good as lard or Crisco. You also can add vodka or apple vinegar for half the liquid to make a good crust. Has anybody used the Pillsbury refrig. crusts? I like them, especially good making meat or chicken pies. But I roll them thinner and sometimes roll in 1/2 stick butter, softened and cut into pieces.

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