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Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:42 PM

My Pies

I'm just showing off a little. Our town has a pie baking contest that I enter every 4th of July. This year my Strawberry Rhubarb pie took first place in double-crust and my Ambassador Black Bottom pie took second place in the cream/custard pie category. The contest is a good fundraiser for our local library.



One of my pastry roses.



Ambassador Black Bottom Pie

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mindem Jul 8 OP
livetohike Jul 8 #1
elleng Jul 8 #2
mindem Jul 8 #3
SkyDaddy7 Jul 9 #51
mindem Jul 9 #57
cilla4progress Jul 8 #4
Squinch Jul 8 #5
Liberal Jesus Freak Jul 8 #6
Laffy Kat Jul 8 #7
csziggy Jul 8 #8
mindem Jul 8 #31
csziggy Jul 8 #36
mindem Jul 8 #37
mindem Jul 8 #39
Scarsdale Jul 9 #46
mindem Jul 9 #47
BobTheSubgenius Jul 9 #49
mindem Jul 9 #55
BobTheSubgenius Jul 10 #62
badhair77 Jul 8 #9
JDC Jul 8 #10
Saviolo Jul 8 #11
NBachers Jul 8 #12
CousinIT Jul 8 #13
TNNurse Jul 8 #14
calimary Jul 8 #15
montana_hazeleyes Jul 8 #16
sprinkleeninow Jul 8 #17
japple Jul 8 #18
pansypoo53219 Jul 8 #19
BadGimp Jul 8 #20
mindem Jul 8 #30
democrank Jul 8 #21
paleotn Jul 8 #22
peequod Jul 8 #23
mindem Jul 8 #34
peequod Jul 9 #41
Honeycombe8 Jul 8 #24
pruple Jul 8 #25
panader0 Jul 8 #26
intheozone Jul 8 #27
samnsara Jul 8 #28
Ohiogal Jul 8 #29
handmade34 Jul 8 #32
KT2000 Jul 8 #33
sweetroxie Jul 8 #35
Lochloosa Jul 8 #38
Maraya1969 Jul 8 #40
emmadoggy Jul 9 #42
Oppaloopa Jul 9 #43
bucolic_frolic Jul 9 #44
Scarsdale Jul 9 #45
Brainstormy Jul 9 #48
sellitman Jul 9 #50
denbot Jul 9 #52
Bayard Jul 9 #53
eppur_se_muova Jul 9 #54
mindem Jul 9 #58
lillypaddle Jul 9 #56
niyad Jul 9 #59
SpankMe Jul 9 #60
Vinca Jul 9 #61
area51 Jul 11 #63
elleng Jul 11 #64
blue-wave Jul 14 #65
Hortensis Jul 15 #66
Beacool Jul 19 #67

Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:47 PM

1. Congratulations! They look delicious! I love

rhubarb .

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:48 PM

2. Congratulations!

Strawberry Rhubarb is my favorite pie, and as it's rarely around, I'd 'walk a mile' for yours!

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Response to elleng (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:50 PM

3. Thanks

The way I sample while creating I'm going to have a gut that is about a mile around.

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Response to mindem (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:34 AM

51. WOW!

Your pies look wonderful!! ÖJust curious, are the flowers on the top of one of them the same as the crust? Tasty!

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #51)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:44 PM

57. Yes,

the flowers are made from the same crust as the pie and sculpted with pretty much the same technique as fondant flowers.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:50 PM

4. Beautiful!

Congratulations! Yum!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:53 PM

5. Those look georgeous! I'd feel awful eating them, but even the rosettes look delicious.

You have a talent I wish I had.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 05:54 PM

6. Wow!!!

The pastry roses are gorgeous and the black bottom pie looks amazing! Congratulations...do you share recipes?

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:12 PM

7. Whoa! Those are beautiful!

They look too pretty to eat (but I would, anyway). Congrats!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:17 PM

8. Congratulations on your prizes!

Your pies look wonderful - I think I gained weight just looking at the photos.

No wonder - I looked up the black bottom pie and the recipe I found, while sounding delicious shocked me: " Calories per serving: 4095" (https://www.bigoven.com/recipe/ambassador-black-bottom-pie/772073)

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Response to csziggy (Reply #8)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:24 PM

31. It's a pretty rich pie

The base recipe I used came from the Augusta Kohrs recipe collection. I did some work for the National Park Service to contemporize her handwritten recipe collection, some of the recipes were written in old German and were quite a challenge to decipher. It's always a challenge to work with recipes from the 1800's because they list only the ingredients and no method. Eventually, the recipes and photography I did will be published by the Park Service. In the meanwhile, I have a nice collection of old dessert recipes to use for my cottage baking business.

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Response to mindem (Reply #31)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:05 PM

36. Wow - what a great job!

I know I ran into an old recipe from about 1834-40 by one of my g? grandmothers.

No name for the recipe, not even what it was supposed to be. DUers and a local friend helped me figure it out and it makes some mean pecan cookies. (My original thread on the recipe: https://www.democraticunderground.com/115738449)

The entries in the book are between 1812 and about 1842. This recipe was in the book:

2 or 3 tea cups of sugar
1 or 2 of butter and
1 of pecans
3 Eggs
1 Teaspoon of perlash *
3 tea cups flour
brandy to your taste.

*(Pearl ash or potassium carbonate was an early raising agent but when added to fats could make soapy tasting baked goods. Substitute baking powder.)

It sounds as though it would be some sort of cake. I'm thinking of trying it when I get home, using baking powder.


I worked with it and got this:

Modern adaptation:
1 1/2 cup light brown sugar
1 cup (two sticks) salted butter
3 large eggs
1 teaspoon vanilla extract or brandy or Irish Mist
2 cups chopped pecans
2 1/4 cups all purpose flour
1 tsp baking soda

Preheat oven to 350 F. Cream together butter and sugar until fluffy. Add eggs and vanilla and beat until well blended. Stir in pecans. Add 1 cup flour and baking soda, mix until just blended. Add rest of flour, mix until just blended; scrape sides of bowl, blend.

Drop by teaspoons on ungreased cookie sheets, 2 inches apart. Bake for 10 minutes. Allow to cool for a few minutes, then remove to rakes to cool completely. Makes 4 dozen cookies.

Notes: I used salted butter since that is what my husband brought home. I was going to add 1/2 teaspoon of salt but with the salted butter I omitted it.

The original recipe called for "brandy to your taste" but I used vanilla extract with my first try. While the cookies were OK, they needed something. The second time I used Irish Mist and they were much more interesting. Since then I have made it with a tablespoon of brandy and that was really good.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #36)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:19 PM

37. Booze can really help a flavor profile

I used real rum for the Black Bottom Pie instead of rum flavoring and it put the custard over the top. Potash or perlash was used quite a bit in German recipes as a leavening agent. Some of the recipes I worked on called for heartsbane, it felt like reading the instructions for a potion vs. a recipe.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #36)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:30 PM

39. Here are some Kieler Braune Kuchen

Last edited Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:20 AM - Edit history (1)

I worked out that called for both perlash and heartsbane. It's quite a process because the finished dough calls for being aged at room temperature for a week or more. They taste great though.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #36)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 07:53 AM

46. By the way,

speaking of the brandy, is that for the pie, or the baker?? I gave a friend a little do-dad that said "I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food"

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #46)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:06 AM

47. Both

Good cooks always sample as they go. In fact, it may be necessary to taste more than one type of brandy, rum, whiskey to ensure the perfect fusion of flavors. Just sayin'.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:46 AM

49. I didn't know, so I had to look it up, because......

...that calorie count seemed incredibly high. Two days RDA of calories in one piece of pie?

I don't know the serving size, but let's assume 100 grams. A different source gave a calorie count of just under 300. It gave the same number for a slice of cheesecake.

I LOVE the sound of that pie, and hearty congratulations on an amazing showing! Those kinds of contests bring out some pretty fine competition, so you were up against good bakers and still did incredibly well!

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #49)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:41 PM

55. I've figured the calorie count

at around 360.

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Response to mindem (Reply #55)

Tue Jul 10, 2018, 11:18 AM

62. That seems both reasonable...

...and totally worth it!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:27 PM

9. You definitely have a gift.

They are beautiful and they look delicious. Thanks also for supporting your local library. Budgets are tight everywhere.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:51 PM

10. Those look amazing!!

Congrats!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:54 PM

11. Can't get enough strawberry rhubarb!

And those little pastry roses are lovely and look delicious. It's still rhubarb season here, so we might make another video in addition to the apple rhubarb compote I posted earlier.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:57 PM

12. You are an artist.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:57 PM

13. Wow! Look delicious but too beautiful to eat!

And for a great cause too. Strawberry-rhubarb - mmmmmm...

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 06:59 PM

14. They look great,

but the test is in the taste. I would give them a try. I am sure they are as good as they look.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:00 PM

15. In total awe...

Thatís not a pie. Thatís a work of art!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:10 PM

16. Oh, they are gorgeous.

Love the pastry roses. It's easy to see why they won.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:17 PM

17. I'd like to place an order for one of each. Thank you. 😋

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:18 PM

18. Congratulations to you and kudos on your beautiful creations. You've really

done it up right. Wish I could sample just a tiny sliver of each!

Two thumbs up!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:23 PM

19. ok. i ain't winning any awards for presentation. at least mine are tasty.

1/2 assed crust works.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:27 PM

20. mmmmm PIE!

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Response to BadGimp (Reply #20)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:16 PM

30. The Eyes

How can you turn down giving treats when they give you those eyes.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:29 PM

21. Congratulations!

Such artistic creations and I bet they're delicious.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:35 PM

22. That's fantastic....

I bet they taste as good as they look.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:37 PM

23. Call me crazy, but I feel if we can still make pies like these beauties, mindem,

I feel there is hope for this great nation. Thank you for your artistry on a sunny summerís afternoon.

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Response to peequod (Reply #23)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:36 PM

34. I'm pretty old fashioned

I think if we started to bring back things like pie and ice cream socials people would get along a little better.

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Response to mindem (Reply #34)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:14 AM

41. That takes the idea farther, I like it

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:43 PM

24. Oh, yum! You're an artist!

I've never understood the interest that many have in baking & cooking. I have no interest in it at all. It's torture to me to have to cook something. But I sure like to partake in the goodies that others make!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:43 PM

25. Now you've made me hungry!

Beautiful pies

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:47 PM

26. You are a culinary artist!

Recommended.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:48 PM

27. Yum Yum, almost too pretty to eat. nt

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 07:55 PM

28. wow!!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:10 PM

29. Those are gorgeous!

You are very talented, mindem!:

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:28 PM

32. yummmmm!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:28 PM

33. OMG!!

Gorgeous! The rosettes on the strawberry/rhubarb are beautiful. Congrats! My favorite is S/R.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:59 PM

35. Wihen can I come over?

nt

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:29 PM

38. And not one recipe....

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2018, 11:35 PM

40. I am so impressed!!! They look incredible!

Congratulations so much.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:28 AM

42. YUM!!! Congrats!!

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Mon Jul 9, 2018, 06:14 AM

43. How many WW points? lol

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Mon Jul 9, 2018, 06:41 AM

44. Well they wouldn't be my choice of pie, but it sure is civic-minded!!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 07:47 AM

45. Congratulations!

Great talent for baking.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:20 AM

48. Amazing! n/t

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Mon Jul 9, 2018, 10:54 AM

50. I would interrupt my low card diet to eat those.

In a NY minute.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:39 AM

52. Nom nom nom nom!

Mrs denbot and I think they are the most beautiful pies weíve ever seen.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 11:41 AM

53. You are invited to my house for dinner.

Bring dessert.....

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:30 PM

54. Well, now you should expect company to drop by ....

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #54)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:48 PM

58. He would be welcomed with open arms.

In fact, I'd be inspired to create a signature pie for the occasion.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 12:42 PM

56. Dayum! Those are beautiful

and look delicious. Congrats! Pass me a piece of each, please!

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Mon Jul 9, 2018, 02:13 PM

59. yummmmmmmm. you did save us some, yes???

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 02:28 PM

60. Pie is one of the greatest substanaces known to man

Yours look amazing!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Mon Jul 9, 2018, 05:18 PM

61. I love the rosette idea. I never thought of that.

Pies are one of my favorite things to make, but I've never made one quite as pretty as yours. Sometimes I cut out apple shapes to put on apple pies, but that's about the extent of it. They never last long enough to appreciate the artwork anyway. LOL.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 07:23 PM

63. They're so beautiful

that I'd hate to cut into them to eat them.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:17 PM

64. Happy to see this beautiful, delicious thread is still active!

SAD to say I saw (and bought) one yesterday, at a 'community' sale (@ my doctor's office/group), and it was AWFUL! SHOULD have known, the crust LOOKED bad/boring, but as strawberry rhubarb pies are rather rare, I couldn't resist. Will continue to look.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sat Jul 14, 2018, 02:57 PM

65. They look so delish!!!!

Congratulations!!

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2018, 05:36 PM

66. That strawberry-rhubarb especially has been awaking cravings

for days now. I haven't gotten into baking, but you reminded me that learning to throw together a great strawberry-rhubarb crisp has been on my list since my last piece of pie (last summer). Most recipes I looked at then apparently had a problem with excess liquid, according to reviews.

Just beautiful, Mindem.

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Response to mindem (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:40 PM

67. They look gorgeous.

I bet that they taste great.

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