Cooking & Baking
Related: About this forumI have a pie pastry question. PBS is airing a show about pies. They showed one
baker who was preparing crust for cream pies. It showed him spreading a substance around the inside of the pastry lined pie tin before he pricked the crust and baked it, but I missed what he was using.
It looked like it might have been some sort of fat, lard perhaps. He said he did it for cream pies to keep the crust from getting soggy. Has anyone heard of this?
Kali
(55,006 posts)wonder if it was an egg wash?
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)creamy looking and held its shape.
Kali
(55,006 posts)seems like a lot of work for it to have been beaten eggwhite, so I wonder what it was
TEB
(12,840 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts)It's not uncommon for bakers to use this, or maybe even use whole milk for brushing.
BTW, what was the name of the show? If it was America's Test Kitchen, Milk Street, or Cook's Country, they may have an explanation on their website/s.
mindem
(1,580 posts)A Few Good Pie Places on PBS
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)They are highlighting pie bakers. This was an older gentleman (he said 80) who does nothing but bake pies for a restaurant.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)There are other ways to keep a crust from getting soggy.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Obviously what you saw was using very beaten egg white.
Why does egg whites prevent a soggy pie crust?
Water blockers egg white protein
Egg whites contain proteins. These proteins like to bind to each other. Protein structures have a molecular bond until heat or aggregation is applied.
As the egg whites heat up they start to coagulate or thicken, which helps push the wet pie filling away from the pie crust. Cooked egg whites swell to build a stronger structure that has a solid form. This solid form is rubbery like and will block water molecules from penetrating.
Also one of my favorite sites for learning how-to about anything is: the spruce dot com..this is from their cooking page:
https://www.thespruceeats.com/how-can-i-prevent-a-soggy-bottom-pie-crust-480510#brush-the-bottom
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Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)He just kind of smeared it around the bottom and sides of the unbaked shell before he pricked it and put it in the oven.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)It would be white, hold its shape and could be applied with your hand.
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I kept thinking, from the way you described the texture, it HAD to be egg white, since the stuff in egg white--
is effective, and there a zillion recipes of egg white/ pie crust soggy crust problem.
then I thought, what would someone use to make egg white thicker, but still workable, ....
well..good old cream of tartar....
How close was I?
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)but watching closely you could see him dip a white substance out of a bowl with a whisk in it. It looks like egg white beaten until they were like a loose meringue.
I'll be baking a few cream pies for Thanksgiving and plan to give it a try. If I do, I'll let you all know how it turns out.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Yummy.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)This Frank's pie part starts at 14:36...
https://www.pbs.org/video/a-few-good-pie-places-full-episode/
I'll definitely try it next time I make a cold pie.
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)I need to experiment with that.
dem in texas
(2,673 posts)The crust of a cream pie should not get soggy. So why? Is the crust is not baked long enough. Too much flour and not enough fat in the crust? Dark metal pie pans used instead of glass? The custard is not cooked enough? Usually the main problem is the meringue is weeping because it is not cooked enough or portions of egg white to sugar are not correct.
if you think you will have to make the pie a long before serving or have pie left over, make a French meringue, then run it under the broiler a few minutes to brown the top. Pie crust should not need any protection.
A fruit pie which is juicier might leak on to the crust, but yum,yum, a gooey fruit pie crust is not bad.