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TEB

(12,840 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:50 AM Feb 2020

My soup is lacking open to suggestions

It’s a creamy hamburger soup
1pound burger
8 potatoes
1pound Swiss cheese
2 diced onions
A lot of black pepper into the roux

Appreciate the help it will get eaten but it’s lacking in that kick.

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My soup is lacking open to suggestions (Original Post) TEB Feb 2020 OP
If this is sort of stroganoff irisblue Feb 2020 #1
It's straight potatoes burger and onions roux said TEB Feb 2020 #7
Garlic powder. dchill Feb 2020 #2
Definitely a plus thanks TEB Feb 2020 #8
sounds like you could use a few bell peppers, or better yet poblamos. rampartc Feb 2020 #3
Next time TEB Feb 2020 #18
Gravy Master Rider3 Feb 2020 #4
I like gravy master much more then kitchen boquet as a flavor additive. irisblue Feb 2020 #9
Thank You TEB Feb 2020 #17
Try putting the 2 diced onions in the roux when you get it as dark as you like. stonecutter357 Feb 2020 #5
Awesome thank you TEB Feb 2020 #14
Hamburger soup is also nice with cabbage ! stonecutter357 Feb 2020 #20
Most definitely friend TEB Feb 2020 #21
My hamburger soup recipe calls for sarge43 Feb 2020 #6
Thank You I put carrots in sarge TEB Feb 2020 #19
You're welcome, TEB sarge43 Feb 2020 #22
If I ate meat I would add celery and carrots. nt in2herbs Feb 2020 #10
Thank you I put TEB Feb 2020 #12
It definitely needs some more spices, depending on what you like. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #11
Whipping Cream, a dash of salt, celery, and water. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2020 #13
Whipping cream and hamburger soup with cheese? mahina Feb 2020 #54
Gives the soup that "Creamy" taste. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2020 #57
I'll have to try it one day. I bet it's tasty. mahina Feb 2020 #60
How I would do it: DetlefK Feb 2020 #15
Thanks I'll do this next time TEB Feb 2020 #16
Oregano makes soup feel warm. Cracklin Charlie Feb 2020 #23
Thank You Charlie TEB Feb 2020 #24
I'd go for a loaded bacon cheeseburger soup. Use cheddar, tomatoes, bacon bits, mustard ... marble falls Feb 2020 #25
Don't underestimate a shot MontanaMama Feb 2020 #26
Yup. My step daughter clued me in on adding a dash of soy sauce to steamed spinach. dhol82 Feb 2020 #31
Want a little kick? Squidly Feb 2020 #27
Yeah! And if you want to go a little further fancy-schmancy: fierywoman Feb 2020 #33
I think I would a bay leaf also. dhol82 Feb 2020 #28
worcheshire is a classic addition and maybe a little dry white wine Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #29
This ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #32
you could cook for me anyday Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #34
Somewhere you need some source of sugar ... tom soup has sugar so that may be plenty mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #36
i find that tomato paste has enough sweetness Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #38
Totally agree with this. Tomato paste can be just the thing. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #39
I have those too. Ginger and Lemongrass pastes too :) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #40
Lemongrass paste? MontanaMama Feb 2020 #41
Refrigerated produce section at my Safeway, along with the various other herb-type pastes mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #43
Thank you! MontanaMama Feb 2020 #45
Sounds delicious.☺ dewsgirl Feb 2020 #30
Heat Such As Crushed Red Pepper Or Cayenne & Garlic Me. Feb 2020 #35
Garlic and a small can of diced green chiles happybird Feb 2020 #37
The answer is sazon flotsam Feb 2020 #42
Helpful tip in case one is at all confused by the directions in that link: mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #44
Thanks flotsam Feb 2020 #46
Try a little cayenne pepper Warpy Feb 2020 #47
try some caraway seeds, maybe a little dill Kali Feb 2020 #48
Salt? Its not listed in your ingredients. Auggie Feb 2020 #49
Salt Retrograde Feb 2020 #50
Have you ever thought of chillfactor Feb 2020 #51
Piwo, moje drogie serce. Pivo, moje drahe srdce. sprinkleeninow Feb 2020 #52
Sour cream, celery, one of the cultured butters, couple drops rice vinegar Prosper Feb 2020 #53
Hi would try something to add a bit of "heat" to it. madaboutharry Feb 2020 #55
i don't eat cheese, but like my uncle's onion soup. it needed a bit of garlic. maybe some bouillon? pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #56
What about a dash or two of smokey paprika? woodsprite Feb 2020 #58
Pickles, acidity is your friend. sir pball Feb 2020 #59
Add garlic and salt... butter if you have no calorie issues as it pack a great deal of flavor. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #61

Rider3

(919 posts)
4. Gravy Master
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:56 AM
Feb 2020

Add a little of this stuff, and you'll get the depth you're looking for. A teaspoon can make a BIG difference!

stonecutter357

(12,694 posts)
5. Try putting the 2 diced onions in the roux when you get it as dark as you like.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:00 PM
Feb 2020

And let them caramelize in the roux . red bell pepper would caramelize very well also .

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
6. My hamburger soup recipe calls for
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:01 PM
Feb 2020

A small can of drained diced tomatoes, diced green pepper and diced carrots to taste, oregano to taste

FWIW

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
11. It definitely needs some more spices, depending on what you like.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:07 PM
Feb 2020

Along with or instead of the suggestions already posted consider some of these:

Celery seed
Thyme
Marjoram

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
13. Whipping Cream, a dash of salt, celery, and water.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:09 PM
Feb 2020

Sharp cheddar would be better.

1 cup whipping cream
1 to 2 cups water
1tsp. Sea salt or to taste
1 cup finely diced celery
Shredded carrots for color


Try that and see how the flavors come together.

mahina

(17,638 posts)
54. Whipping cream and hamburger soup with cheese?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:08 AM
Feb 2020

Never seen anything like any of this in my whole life.

Sounds like a heart attack in a bowl. Good luck everybody!

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
57. Gives the soup that "Creamy" taste.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:15 AM
Feb 2020

Or substitute milk. It is not like one is eating this soup every day and in large amounts.

I use whipping cream in my Greene Beanie cassarole, which makes it so yummy.

mahina

(17,638 posts)
60. I'll have to try it one day. I bet it's tasty.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:54 PM
Feb 2020

We eat foods here that people from other places find strange- poi for starters

It’s delicious and makes you feel good.

Takes all kinds to run a world!

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
15. How I would do it:
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020

1. Extremely finely dice a small carrot, half an onion and half a stalk of celery (and 1 or 2 cloves of garlic).

2. Form the ground meat into a large thin burger and fry in the pot. Do not stir or disturb until it gets a crust. When the crust has been formed, chop the burger into small pieces, add the vegetables and salt/pepper and keep frying.

3. In a separate pot make a blond roux, add cold stock, bring to boil, add cheese.

4. Mix the sauce to the meat/vegetable-mix.

5. Chop 1 or 2 onions into rings, flour them, fry crunchy. Chop burger-buns into 0.5 inch sized bits and fry crunchy.


Serve the meat-vegetable-roux-cheese soup topped with onion-rings and bun-bits.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
23. Oregano makes soup feel warm.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:04 PM
Feb 2020

I add it to lots of soups. I usually use Mexican oregano, but I just ran out.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
25. I'd go for a loaded bacon cheeseburger soup. Use cheddar, tomatoes, bacon bits, mustard ...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:21 PM
Feb 2020

catsup as adds on the tables.

MontanaMama

(23,301 posts)
26. Don't underestimate a shot
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:23 PM
Feb 2020

of soy sauce or aminos. They can provide a depth of flavor to recipes that are missing a little something.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
31. Yup. My step daughter clued me in on adding a dash of soy sauce to steamed spinach.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:28 PM
Feb 2020

Really added to the flavor.
That’s along with a bit of butter. The flavors just compliment each other.

fierywoman

(7,680 posts)
33. Yeah! And if you want to go a little further fancy-schmancy:
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:43 PM
Feb 2020

smoked paprika. And you can roast the cumin seeds and grind them. Or maybe chipotle powder? In my experience, it's probably salt that you need.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
28. I think I would a bay leaf also.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:26 PM
Feb 2020

And, everything is better with a dash or two or three of cayenne.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
32. This ...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:33 PM
Feb 2020

Also ... allow me to interject ... a can of classic campbells (or the like) tomato soup. May need more or less depending on the overall volume.

Also a few dashes of tabasco.

OH ... and a bit of sugar. Almost no soup is great with 0 sugar. It's not to make it sweet, it's to round out the flavor.

A bit of Beef Bouillon would also probably be good ...

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
36. Somewhere you need some source of sugar ... tom soup has sugar so that may be plenty
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:52 PM
Feb 2020

It won't taste right with absolutely none, IMHO.

Just like it wouldn't with 0 salt.

Thanks for the compliment ... there's a few things I know how to make pretty well if I say so myself. Soup is definitely a forte ...

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
38. i find that tomato paste has enough sweetness
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:59 PM
Feb 2020

for most soups...
though I would add a little sugar or honey for sweet and sour cabbage soup..

MontanaMama

(23,301 posts)
39. Totally agree with this. Tomato paste can be just the thing.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:15 PM
Feb 2020

I like to keep a tube of tomato paste in the fridge along with a tube of garlic paste and anchovy paste. I'm not super fond of anchovies but the paste adds the perfect something in some recipes.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
40. I have those too. Ginger and Lemongrass pastes too :)
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:31 PM
Feb 2020

Anchovy Paste I pretty much use only for homemade Caesar dressing.

Though I also have fish sauce (liquid anchovy paste or damn near) and shrimp paste on hand for various asian concoctions.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
43. Refrigerated produce section at my Safeway, along with the various other herb-type pastes
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020

Brand is Gourmet Garden ... looks like Kroger has as well ...

https://www.kroger.com/p/gourmet-garden-lemongrass-stir-in-paste/0087520800067

MontanaMama

(23,301 posts)
45. Thank you!
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 03:28 PM
Feb 2020

I will look for it. On an Asian cooking kick at the moment. Sometimes I can get lemongrass at the organic grocery store but not consistently this time of year.

happybird

(4,602 posts)
37. Garlic and a small can of diced green chiles
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:54 PM
Feb 2020

or some fresh chopped jalapeño. Those little cans of chiles are super handy, I use them often and don’t have to worry about touching my face after chopping hot peppers.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
42. The answer is sazon
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 03:07 PM
Feb 2020

If you look for it both Walmart and Hannaford groceries carry it in New England.Some brands of sazon contain MSG (which I personally like) others do not. I use it in all soups and stews. I also use in when cooking meat in my air fryer. I spray the meat lightly with Pam olive oil in the pump sprayer and dust with sazon. Then massage the spice into the meat, which turns your fingers as orange as an unnamed "president" but it washes right off...As far as I'm concerned this is the miracle spice. A little more info here:https://www.nospoonnecessary.com/homemade-sazon-seasoning-mix/

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
44. Helpful tip in case one is at all confused by the directions in that link:
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 03:21 PM
Feb 2020

In the US:
Coriander: dried seeds of the cilantro plant, little round balls the size of peppercorns
Cilantro: The stems and leaves of the cilantro plant

In a lot of the rest of the world:
Coriander Seed: What we call Coriander in the US
Coriander: What we call Cilantro in the US

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
46. Thanks
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 03:32 PM
Feb 2020

Sazon is my secret cause-for less than $5 you just might find a culinary revelation. You surely will not find another spice blend as versatile.

Warpy

(111,232 posts)
47. Try a little cayenne pepper
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:04 PM
Feb 2020

If you're heat phobic,just put a little into a tiny bowl, add a few grains stir and let sit for a few minutes and taste.

Cheese, potatoes and burger tend to be pretty bland things that need just a little heat.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
48. try some caraway seeds, maybe a little dill
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:28 PM
Feb 2020

what fat are you using for your roux? try bacon grease instead
is this a cream soup or broth based? add bullion or other beef flavoring for broth based, for sure. tomato of some kind is good in there as well. bay leaf, carrots, celery.

a few other things to try (not all at once! but for either cream or broth based): sherry, Worcestershire, red pepper, cajun seasoning, green chiles, mushrooms, garlic, beer, smoke (a drop or two of liquid or use something like smoked paprika or chipotle - a little goes a long way, be careful)

Retrograde

(10,132 posts)
50. Salt
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 04:27 AM
Feb 2020

Not much - a pinch of kosher salt at the table is usually enough to perk up the tastebuds.

I don’t see much liquid in your recipe - what are you using as the base?

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
51. Have you ever thought of
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:08 AM
Feb 2020

using bite-sized kale in your soups.....it is a great addition to most any soup,

sprinkleeninow

(20,235 posts)
52. Piwo, moje drogie serce. Pivo, moje drahe srdce.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:11 AM
Feb 2020

A bottle of Rolling Rock. A couple o' splashes, then take a swig!



Na z'drovje!

Prosper

(761 posts)
53. Sour cream, celery, one of the cultured butters, couple drops rice vinegar
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:57 AM
Feb 2020

make your hamburger into thin patties and sear both sides, that will bring out the taste of the meat the break it up. Same thing with the onions. Get them brown. Searing the meat and onions takes their taste from boiled to grilled. If your worried about the onions showing up in your soup run them through a blender. Get a richer taste with a slight shade of color. Also the searing adds to the taste like the difference between boiled or fried French fries.

madaboutharry

(40,201 posts)
55. Hi would try something to add a bit of "heat" to it.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:03 AM
Feb 2020

Like a a little cayenne pepper or Tabasco. Just a whisper of heat taste good in a creamed soup.

woodsprite

(11,910 posts)
58. What about a dash or two of smokey paprika?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:31 AM
Feb 2020

I made a sauce for pierogies last night, and that took it to a whole other level.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
59. Pickles, acidity is your friend.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 11:44 AM
Feb 2020

Cuts the richness a little and makes it pop, you could try either a splash of pickle juice or some finely diced pickles (cornichins or dill, bread and butter or half sweets wouldn't be very good)

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
61. Add garlic and salt... butter if you have no calorie issues as it pack a great deal of flavor.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 05:29 PM
Feb 2020

I think Cheddar cheese has more flavor than swiss...also add bacon...worstershire sauce...and beef broth will help too.

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