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Digging through my pantry I found a pack of Betty Crocker Roasted Garlic instant Mashed Potatoes. Since I seldom use them and never buy them - my husband picks them up sometimes - they are long expired. The date on box (it was a two pack and I must have used one in the distant past) is 21Sep2010.
I need some mashed potatoes to make a fisherman's pie and while I have two other (also expired, but only last year) packs, this is the oldest. Sooooooo, what are the chance they are still good? The pack is still well sealed, no tears or breaks, the contents still feel flaky.
The contents are potatoes, salt, sugar, garlic, and a nice assortment of chemical names. What could go bad? What should I watch for? Should I even take a chance?
brewens
(13,570 posts)definite stale odor if it was bad. I know expired potato chips do if they are old enough.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)But if it smells like garlic potatoes should, I will. I do have those other two packs of expired mashed potato mix that need to be use, after all.
rampartc
(5,403 posts)if it looks and smells like the others it us probably ok
csziggy
(34,136 posts)That is one reason I don't really mind having the instant mashed around, they make a small amount that doing from fresh would be a hassle. And I can't keep fresh potatoes around, in our Florida environment, they sprout quickly.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)virgogal
(10,178 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)like this you'll find that the product is safe (as long as the package is intact) although the flavor/quality of the resulting product may deviate from ideal.
marble falls
(57,075 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)They always sprout after a few days. So for times like this when I'm not going to the store, the instant mashed are helpful for a dish like this where the mashed potatoes are just a way to hold the cheddar cheese on the top of the casserole.
If I were going to store today, I might have picked up some potatoes and made fresh mashed - but I don't particularly like mashed potatoes and hate wasting fresh potatoes on them.
I'll open the pack and smell it - if it's the least bit off smelling I'll use one of the more recently expired packages.
jimfields33
(15,768 posts)Is that possible and still have the final product the same?
csziggy
(34,136 posts)I opened the really old pack and it smelled really bad. Of course, I had to do the, "Here, smell this, does it smell bad to you?" with my husband but he knows better than to fall for that. Smart man, trusts my nose. So it went into trash (well, the contents went into the organics bin and the package went in the trash).
A newer pack is now mixed with cheddar cheese and on top of my fisherman's pie in the oven.
I'm using up leftovers: parmesan and cottage cheese left from a pseudo lasagna, one lone but very large salmon filet, eggs, left over chopped onions, garlic, carrots, cheddar cheese and these old mashed potatoes. I hope it's good - it smells great!
jimfields33
(15,768 posts)Your hubby is a lucky guy.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)The entire pie is at least six servings so that was a great way to make the most of a big fillet. I'll put the recipe in a new thread.
WVGal1963
(145 posts)I own a retail store and we sell a lot of specialty and gourmet food items so I have had to learn a lot over the years about shelf life. Theres so must confusion (.......and I count myself among the confused......) regarding Best By/Sell By/Use By. I still dont quite understand it all.
But one thing I did learn about dry ingredient products came from one of my sales reps. Among other items, I stock some specialty pancake and waffle mixes from one of his lines. He told me that if any dry products includes any kind of malt or malt extract, it should never be consumed past the Use By date because it can make one very sick. I remember doing some further research about that and decided to always just toss any dry products that I sell. This includes bread mixes, dip mixes, etc. I think someone even told me that malt and malt extracts are often in spice blends. I dont have any idea what the chemical term(s) might be for malt related ingredients or additives.
So - - I am certainly no expert!! But thats my experience. Maybe someone knows more? My instinct would be to toss it, even the more recently expired one just in case.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)I had a very bad experience with Bisquik a lot of years ago. I didn't realize that "malt" could do that - and this does have maltodextrin as the fourth ingredient, with soybean oil way down the list.
I'll have one of the other packs out just in case.
fierywoman
(7,683 posts)When I lived in Mexico City, I had several stomach infections. I got to the place with dubious food with the thought: What would cost me more, the price I paid for the dubious food or a few visits to the gastro specialist? The price o f the doc ALWAYS won.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)And I don't have much rice and am trying to stretch it.
I like to change out what we're having so potatoes sounded like a good choice. I threw out the really old package - it smelled really off when I opened it. The only one year past sell date smelled fine and tasted good when mixed up so it is on my pie in the oven now.
In fact, I bet I need to throw out the container of quinoa that is about five years old...
hlthe2b
(102,221 posts)about which much is written. If you are going to cook it anyway, it has been vacuum-sealed the whole time, and looks/smells fine when you open it, I'd say not to worry. At worse, it might not taste so fresh, I suppose, but I doubt one could tell in that dish.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)It smelled terrible when opened. So I tossed the old ones and used a newer package, which smelled and tasted fine. It's in the oven now - if my version of a fisherman's pie turns out, I will put the recipe in the forum!
Kali
(55,007 posts)instant mashed potatoes became more or less edible. previously they were not. perhaps your newer ones are such and possibly your older package is the former. now, me? I don't do instant starches but I do do expired products. I trust my judgement, not some arbitrary sale date primarily designed to instill fear and food wastage. but I also have a strong stomach. whether that is a chicken/egg first situation, I am not sure. but I rarely look at dates on packages and use my nose instead.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)The merely year past sell date smelled fine so it is now in the oven topping my fisherman's pie.
I pretty much expect sell by dates to be the last day they can be sold at the grocer's, then have a life expectancy past that, depending on the product. For something like these potatoes, a year past is not too bad, in my opinion - they sure smelled fresh and the mixed up potatoes tasted fine when I licked the spoon, even better when I stirred in a good quantity of extra sharp cheddar cheese.
I only check the dates if I have more than one package in the pantry - or, as with these, I can't remember when they were bought and they've been in there a while. I think my husband bought these not long after we built the house. Since I think most mashed potatoes are only good to be used as spackle, they've been sitting there all these years.
Someday I'll tell the story of mashed potatoes and m tonsils.