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Found a tick on the dog (Original Post) fadedrose Jun 2013 OP
weight ranges are written on each package in big bold print TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #1
Thanks for your response...& Walk away fadedrose Jun 2013 #3
I've always had really good luck with Frontline TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #4
Lyme disease vaccination fadedrose Jun 2013 #5
It's a yearly vaccine TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #6
Those acute neurological signs are consitent with tick paralysis, not Lyme Disease... hlthe2b Jun 2013 #7
If you are going to use Frontline, get Frontline Plus. nt Walk away Jun 2013 #2

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
1. weight ranges are written on each package in big bold print
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:41 AM
Jun 2013

I just put the Frontline on my beast a few days ago, so I remember what the package looks like and how obvious the weight ranges are listed. If you know how much your dog weighs you'll have no trouble at all selecting the right package for the size of your dog. You can go to the Frontline website at www.frontline.com and there's a selection there where you can plug in the weight range of your dog and it shows you which package is the one you want. If your dog is around 40 lbs. then you'd need the one that is for dogs in the weight range of 23 to 44 lbs. It also shows a picture of what the package for the weight range looks like. I also noticed that you can get a coupon on the site so that if you buy the package of 6 doses you get two extra doses free. If you have the money you probably want to do that since Frontline lasts for years, so you can always use the ones you won't need this year for next year. I have to buy some more, too, for next month since I just used my last one on my beastie, so I'm really glad I just checked the site - I definitely can use that coupon! I'm just not sure I can afford the package of 6 doses instead of the one for 3 doses. I really should have the package of 6 since tick and flea season here really is a good 5 or 6 months long, and it probably ends up cheaper anyway even without the coupon to buy the 6 doses package.

If you aren't sure of the weight of your dog and he's not too heavy to pick up, if you have a bathroom scale, weigh yourself then weigh yourself again while holding the dog, and just subtract your own weight from the weight of both you and the dog. My dad used to do this to weight our family dog all the time to see if he was getting too fat or if he needed any kind of medicine. I can't do this with my beast since he's too huge to pick up and I don't have a bathroom scale anyway. I would never have thought to do this though if I hadn't known my dad did it a lot with our family dog when I was a kid.

Incidentally, this is for Frontline Plus. I guess they don't make regular Frontline anymore since the whole website is about Frontline Plus. I would prefer the Frontline Plus anyway though since it also kills the flea eggs and larvae. It's also waterproof, and I don't think the regular Frontline was. That always bothered me... what if the dog needed a bath or was out in the pouring rain (he loves pouring rain for some reason), would that mean it washed out and would have to be reapplied? Since it was pouring buckets all day today, and Yoshi was out in it frolicking in the mud I was just wondering if the Frontline I just put on him a few days ago might have washed out or something.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
3. Thanks for your response...& Walk away
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:21 PM
Jun 2013

I did get the Frontline Plus, Medium. I've used Frontline before and was satisfied.

There was an ad in Reader's Digest (not mine) that my husband read - it said, to paraphrase, that Advanage (?) is preferable to Frontline because it kills fleas and ticks and Frontline does NOT. It said right on the box that is DOES kill them.

As you and Walk away suggested, I got the Frontline Plus.

The ticks are heavy this year according to our local newspaper, and they must be heavy everywhere. It is impossible to get on Frontline's website to see about a coupon, so we just bought it without one.

Thank you for your help...

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
4. I've always had really good luck with Frontline
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 02:54 AM
Jun 2013

My vet also prefers the Frontline to Advantage though I'm not sure why. Fleas and ticks - especially those nasty deer ticks that carry Lyme disease - are always pretty bad in the summer where I live, so I always make sure the pooch is protected. My first Akita did get Lyme in the fall years ago when we had an absolute Lyme epidemic here, and he had joint problems ever since. Ever since then I always make sure the beast gets the Lyme disease vaccination at the vets every year along with the Frontline. Ticks give me the creeps and fleas totally gross me out.

I think I might dig my Frontline package that I just used the last one out of the trash and see if it's regular Frontline or Frontline Plus. I have a feeling they must not make regular Frontline anymore because the website is all about Frontline Plus... doesn't say a thing about regular Frontline. I'm pretty sure I would have gotten Frontline Plus since I'd definitely want to kill the flea eggs and larvae, but now I'm paranoid. LOL!

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
5. Lyme disease vaccination
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 09:54 AM
Jun 2013

I did not know there was a vaccination for this. Will call the vet today. Ginger has been having trouble with her joints - her jumping on and off the bed is not as perky as it was - she has to "think" first...

Thank you so much.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
6. It's a yearly vaccine
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 12:33 PM
Jun 2013

It also isn't perfect... a dog can still get Lyme even with the vaccine, but the chances are very slim. I guess it's more like a preventative than a vaccine but I'm not sure really what the difference is. For me I feel like it's even more important than the heartworm preventative he gets every month since I'm so paranoid of Lyme disease after my first beastie got it. Kind of sucks that they don't have chewables you can give the dog yourself for Lyme preventative, but I guess since they'd only need two of them once a year it probably doesn't make much sense to have them. Yoshi just isn't so fond of needles particularly in his bum... but as long as the tech guy is feeding him treats at his front end the vet can basically do whatever the heck he wants at his back end.

Anywho, they need two shots. After the first one, you wait I think it's 3 weeks (if it's not 3 than it's 2) and then get the booster shot. You HAVE to get the booster or the first shot won't do any good, and it'll be just a waste of money. My vet always calls me when it's time for the booster so I won't forget. They also charge for the whole thing when they give the first shot, so when we go in for the second one it's already been paid for (makes me feel like I'm getting something for free though I'm really not, but we can just pop in really quick, do the needle stick, and then back out again). It's fairly inexpensive, and definitely worth it. I never ever ever want any beastie I have getting Lyme! Ever since that epidemic we had in this area years ago when my doggie got it my vet always recommends it every year for all their pooch patients (maybe for the kitty patients too, but I don't know if kitties get Lyme). My area is just a really bad area for Lyme. Nothing like that one year where there was an epidemic of it though thank goodness.

You'll probably know if your dog gets Lyme. It's really scary. When mine got it I really thought he had a stroke and the symptoms got worse and worse in just a few hours. He just very suddenly was stumbling around like he forgot how to use his legs, and a couple hours later he couldn't stand up at all. It's fixed with antibiotics. Mine had to do two rounds of the Doxicycline and then he was ok, but he was still a bit gimpy after that, and arthritis kicked in years before it normally would have. One of my brothers also got Lyme in the same week my doggie did, and he still gets occasional bouts of joint pain. What a shame that they don't have a Lyme preventative for people!

Yeah, definitely ask your vet about it. I totally think it's VERY MUCH worth it.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
7. Those acute neurological signs are consitent with tick paralysis, not Lyme Disease...
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:38 PM
Jun 2013
It is caused by a neurotoxin produced in the salivary glands of some ticks. Removal of the tick(s) generally results in rapid recovery. Thus tick prevention remains very important whether or not you get the Lyme Disease vaccine.

Tick paralysis results from inoculation of a toxin from tick salivary glands during a blood meal. The toxin causes symptoms within 2–7 days, beginning with weakness in both legs that progresses to paralysis. The paralysis ascends to the trunk, arms, and head within hours and may lead to respiratory failure and death. The disease can present as acute ataxia without muscle weakness.

Patients may report minor sensory symptoms, but constitutional signs are usually absent. Deep tendon reflexes are usually hypoactive or absent, and ophthalmoplegia and bulbar palsy can occur.

Electromyographic (EMG) studies usually show a variable reduction in the amplitude of compound muscle action potentials, but no abnormalities of repetitive nerve stimulation studies. These appear to result from a failure of acetylcholine release at the motor nerve terminal level. There may be subtle abnormalities of motor nerve conduction velocity and sensory action potentials.
Pathogenesis

Tick paralysis is believed to be due to toxins found in the tick's saliva that enter the bloodstream while the tick is feeding. The two ticks most commonly associated with North American tick paralysis are the Rocky Mountain wood tick (Dermacentor andersoni) and the American dog tick (Dermacentor variabilis); however, 43 tick species have been implicated in human disease around the world.[1] Most North American cases of tick paralysis occur from April to June, when adult Dermacentor ticks emerge from hibernation and actively seek hosts.[2] In Australia, tick paralysis is caused by the tick Ixodes holocyclus. Prior to 1989, 20 fatal cases were reported in Australia.[3]

Tick paralysis has killed thousands of animals, mainly cows and sheep, in other parts of the world[where?]. Although tick paralysis is of concern in domestic animals and livestock in the United States as well, human cases are rare and usually occur in children under the age of 10.

Tick paralysis occurs when an engorged and gravid (egg-laden) female tick produces a neurotoxin in its salivary glands and transmits it to its host during feeding. Experiments have indicated that the greatest amount of toxin is produced between the fifth and seventh day of attachment (often initiating or increasing the severity of symptoms), although the timing may vary depending on the species of tick.

Unlike Lyme disease, ehrlichiosis, and babesiosis, which are caused by the systemic proliferation and expansion of parasites in their hosts long after the offending tick is gone, tick paralysis is chemically induced by the tick and therefore usually only continues in its presence. Once the tick is removed, symptoms usually diminish rapidly. However, in some cases, profound paralysis can develop and even become fatal before anyone becomes aware of a tick's presence.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tick_paralysis
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