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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:52 PM Jun 2017

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uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
1. Why do you think it's a pitbull? Why would one breed be banned? Do dogs need genetic testing before
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 11:59 PM
Jun 2017

being allowed to live there? It's the problem that it's a pitbull? What if it was a long haired mutt?

I live with 2 dogs tasty have been mistaken for OMG pit bulls and find breed restrictions bizarre. Size restrictions make more sense.

Was it growling out of anger, or just talking and wanting to check out your dog?

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
8. Are you for real?
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:53 AM
Jun 2017

Yes, I know a pit bull when I see one.

The problem, obviously, is that its a dog-aggressive pit bull.

Most apartment buildings that allow dogs have a list of breeds that are not allowed, and pit bulls are almost always on it - because they are known to be a dog-aggressive breed. Not all members of the breed, but many of them.

If a dog is behaving like he wants to kill me and my dog, I am not interested in what kind of mood he's in.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
9. Yes, I am for real
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:04 AM
Jun 2017

Studies have shown that even vets that work primarily with dogs have difficulty correctly identifying pit bulls.

I am always sad to read prejudice against muscly short haired dogs on du because I assume people here address more educated or at least less likely to fall for media hysteria about this type dog.

No, they have not been shown to be any more dog aggressive than any other breed, even if correctly ID'd. Media does like to pick and choose what stories to carry and OMG pitbull (too often incorrect) sells more papers than OMG big dogs or OMG mutt dog pack. Hence, more bad press than reality.

Good luck with your pup.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
11. Working in animal shelters for about 5 years and
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:40 AM
Jun 2017

being a dog groomer for 11 and a half years I have found Pit bulls great dogs and all of the other bully breeds. Most of the time I can tell one bully breed from another but I occasionally miss my guess also. The only reason any dog is dog aggressive is because it was taught to be like that or allowed to be like that and never taught it was not allowed. I would look at the owners before blaming the dog. From my many years of working with dogs I would trust a Pit Bull before a miniature Poodle, Pomeranian, Shih Tzu, Lhasa Apso, Yorkie, and such. I also wonder if that dog is a rescue from a dog fighting ring.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
12. I wonder at the change from
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 10:37 AM
Jun 2017

"growled at my dog" and "My dog whines a little when he is being growled at but doesn't pay that much attention to him. " to "behaving like he wants to kill me and my dog" and " an animal snarling at my pet like he'd like to kill him from a few feet away ".

Any dog is capable of biting, and of being scary.

Talking more to the other owners, meeting the other dog without you dog to let the person and dog get to know each other are great steps to take.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
10. I agree with you 1000%
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:09 AM
Jun 2017

JenniferJuniper

(4,510 posts)
2. Most apartment buildings/complexes
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:03 AM
Jun 2017

and mobile home parks have breed restrictions these days, and pit bulls are invariably on that list. This is so the owner of the building or complex doesn't end up with legal responsibility if something happens to a person or another animal because of a restricted animal's actions. Insurance companies will jack up the premiums or cancel the policy of any property owner that does not enforce the rules.

I would not take the couple's word that the dog is allowed. If there is a restriction, it should be enforced. I'd inquire with the property manager, and if you get the feeling he/she has a personal relationship with the couple, escalate your inquiry to the owner. If they are breaking the rules, you should not be the one who feels they have to move.

applegrove

(118,577 posts)
3. Just tell the owners you want to keep the dogs separated. Make a deal
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:07 AM
Jun 2017

with them that whomever is leaving the building gets a wide berth. Hope they are good people and agree to it. My brother's dog got attacked in a park by two pit bulls running off leash. Owner was a real piece of work. My brother broke his finger punching the pit bulls to get them off. His dog had bite marks but otherwise was okay. Tell the owners in the building you are afraid. I hate that breed.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
4. I have a very reactive border collie
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:10 AM
Jun 2017

Who definitely would have a difficult time with meeting other dogs at doorways. I'm also a vet with access to behaviorists and anxiety meds and have been dealing with my bossy overreactive border collie for a long time. So, two things.

1. The dog may be most reactive when it is on a leash (maybe that's why people tell you it is a good pet but why your interactions have been bad), so maybe stand back when they are trying to enter or ask them to stand back. Best to give the dog space.

2. Talk with the owners about your concerns and come up with a plan for when your dogs are near each other. Or a plan on how you all can avoid each other if you are nervous. Communication is key. And possibly lots of treats too.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
5. Great advice. Our old big retriever would act up when MrUppity was on the leash with him. If I
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:18 AM
Jun 2017

was holding the leash, he'd behave well. Yeah, I was much tougher on our dog, gave him less slack to misbehave.

MrUP had some real issues with the dog when they were leashed together.

Anyway, good advice.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
6. Thx. Fur babies can be a handful. Nt
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:46 AM
Jun 2017

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
7. Its probably the rule that all dogs need to be leashed outside of the apartments.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 12:49 AM
Jun 2017

I always keep mine leashed, and I am pretty sure they do also. I think the worst interactions come about when the dogs have unequal freedom - one is leashed and the other is not. But I am just worried about the situation when they are both on leashes.

As I said, my dog is well socialized - been going to daycare several times a week for 8 years. When I walked him in my old neighborhood and other dogs were reacting to him, he really didn't react much. But once there was one who got away from his owner and went for my dog's throat. The owner threw himself on top of his pit bull to stop him. If he had done it a second later my dog could have been killed.

If I am outside I can get out of the way. But the first time I saw the guy with the dog I opened the door to the stairwell, and there they were. The dogs were only a couple of feet apart. I talked to the wife and she told me that her husband had good control of the dog. He does appear to have good control, but having an animal snarling at my pet like he'd like to kill him from a few feet away is really scary for me. My dog could get badly hurt, and I could get badly hurt trying to protect him.

We have talked a little. I guess we need some more talk. Or something.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. only been two days, your dog needs to learn to walk at your side, ignore distractions.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:52 PM
Jun 2017

Hard for some aussies to ignore distractions, takes practice. When your dog whines and looks at other dogs they take that as a threat.

If the pittie and owner have lived there for years without issue it's probably a very nice dog.

I'd practice things like small dog running up to your dog yapping and barking or a child running past, or a jogger, a bike rider.

edited to add, good hes used to doggie daycare but all dogs he encounters are not there for him to interact with/play with. He needs practice 'passing' distractions.

If you join a basic obedience class or basic "flyball" class you can brush-up on those passing distractions and ignoring them at a higher skill level.. Its fun for man and dog.

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