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silverweb

(16,402 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 06:34 PM Mar 2018

Advice from cat rescuers, please!

Currently, I have three cats, ages 6, 7, and 10. I've been manager of a small apartment complex for just over 3 years and they think they own the place. Last fall, a little black cat started hanging around the property. I'd often see it when I did my rounds at about 10 pm, but could never get within 20 feet before it would run.

It seemed to disappear for most of the winter, but starting last week has been back and hanging out in front of my apartment. The other night it was raining, and the poor little thing sat outside and cried all night. I tried to talk to it, but as soon as I'd open my door, it would bolt and disappear. I put food out for it. Then I set a crate on end under the overhang and facing the building, covered in plastic on the outside with a soft lining inside, so it could at least shelter from the rain. The food was gone in the morning, but there were no paw prints on the crate lining.

Last night, it was back again as soon as it got dark. I had already put food out and refreshed the crate lining. When I saw it, I opened my inner door and left the security door closed, softly talking to it and calling it by name through the grating. If I tried to open the security door even an inch, it would run, but it was always back once I closed that door, just sitting and watching me as I talked to it.

One of my tenants, who was here long before I was and knew the old manager well, said it sounded like her cat, "Puppy." He was small for a male and the manager told her she dropped him off at a shelter before she moved away; however, when asked which shelter, she couldn't answer. My neighbor was always suspicious about that. Now we're wondering if Puppy was abandoned elsewhere and finally found his way back. If it is him, he's got to be shocked and upset to realize that not only was he abandoned, but his family is gone and a stranger occupies his old home.

If this is Puppy, he's been badly traumatized. I've been told he was always friendly, but now he's frightened, bewildered, and skittish. I think I'm making a small amount of progress in letting him get to know me. Perhaps there's hope that he might become comfortable enough for me to get him to the vet for a chip scan and a checkup. I already have a tenant who will take him, since my three darling brats would never give him a moment's peace here.

I'm locking my cats in the back rooms tonight to see if he feels less threatened without them around. I'm going to leave the front door open a foot or so and sit very quietly, just to see if he ventures in to check his old home out.

My question is this: Do experienced cat rescuers among you have any further advice? I can rent a trap, but don't want to further traumatize him; he's been through enough. Should I just keep doing what I'm doing to see if he comes around? How long should I keep at it before I give up and rent a feral trap? He looks uninjured and fairly healthy, but is obviously distressed. Whether he's Puppy or not, I have to help him, and a quiet home with a currently cat-less cat lover is waiting.

Thanks in advance for any advice you can give!


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Advice from cat rescuers, please! (Original Post) silverweb Mar 2018 OP
Keep doing what you're doing. Glamrock Mar 2018 #1
Thank you! silverweb Mar 2018 #3
I do too. Glamrock Mar 2018 #5
Wow, you have a house full! silverweb Mar 2018 #8
We had lost one a few months back and weren't planning on maintaining 4. Glamrock Mar 2018 #13
I won't tell! silverweb Mar 2018 #16
Wholly concur. Best of luck to you and kitty and THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! CurtEastPoint Mar 2018 #18
It took me several months of feeding and providing a home before I could get a feral Fresh_Start Mar 2018 #2
Good to know. silverweb Mar 2018 #4
Check with the animal shelter, most loan out humane traps. procon Mar 2018 #6
I have a few sources for traps, so no problem. silverweb Mar 2018 #10
Keep on keeping food & shelter available irisblue Mar 2018 #7
Very good suggestions. silverweb Mar 2018 #11
You can probably catch him by doing what you're doing, but it will take a while. But I'd trap him. femmedem Mar 2018 #9
Thanks! silverweb Mar 2018 #14
If you have patience--and it sounds like you are great with cats--go for it! femmedem Mar 2018 #17
Thanks so much for the encouragement. silverweb Mar 2018 #20
If you really don't want to use a trap, you could put out a cat carrier catrose Mar 2018 #12
Good advice! silverweb Mar 2018 #15
I use sardines. Pee-yew but irresistible to kits. CurtEastPoint Mar 2018 #19
Oh, yes. silverweb Mar 2018 #21
the only think I can think of to change ginnyinWI Mar 2018 #22
Excellent advice. silverweb Mar 2018 #23

Glamrock

(11,787 posts)
1. Keep doing what you're doing.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 06:42 PM
Mar 2018

You're making headway by the sound of it. May not be as rapid as you'd like, but obviously, it ain't about you. Keep feeding and talking and I'm sure he'll come round.

Good luck!

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
3. Thank you!
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 06:49 PM
Mar 2018

I know it will take time and patience, and I can handle that. For his sake, though, I hope it's not too long. At least the weather is getting milder, but it's supposed to rain all weekend again. I so hope he lets me help him.

Glamrock

(11,787 posts)
5. I do too.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 06:54 PM
Mar 2018

I rescued one last August that never would have made it through the winter. Consequently, I feel your pain. Here's a link to her pic...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/116137116

And if you scroll through the replies, you'll find her story.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
8. Wow, you have a house full!
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:20 PM
Mar 2018

Bootsy is one luck kitty to have you rescue her. All your animals are gorgeous. That's quite a story about getting her home. Kudos for your prompt actions taking her in.

Glamrock

(11,787 posts)
13. We had lost one a few months back and weren't planning on maintaining 4.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:31 PM
Mar 2018

But she was so starved and so in need of medical attention.... I just couldn't not take her home.

I really hope youre able to make a connection with this one. Black cats are the best! My Muddy is my favorite! (Don't tell anyone.)

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
16. I won't tell!
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:59 PM
Mar 2018

It's so sad when one you're trying to help doesn't make it, but you did the best you could. Muddy is a great name!

I had a black cat named Runt many years ago that I loved a lot. He was the runt of the litter, abandoned in a garage when his mother moved the others, so I raised him from a very young age, eyedropper feedings and the whole bit. He was the sweetest, most beautiful cat and I still miss him.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
4. Good to know.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 06:51 PM
Mar 2018

Warmer weather is coming, the rains will be over soon and it won't be quite so hard being outside, if that's what he prefers for a while. I'll just keep on doing the same and hoping he comes around. Thanks!

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. Check with the animal shelter, most loan out humane traps.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 06:58 PM
Mar 2018

You need to capture it first to determine if it is feral or a lost cat that can be resocialized. The shelter staff is experienced to test its suitability for adoption. Even if its a feral cat, a spay and release program will help it stay around your building if that's what you want.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
10. I have a few sources for traps, so no problem.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:24 PM
Mar 2018

If this is the old manager's cat, as seems might be the case, I think time and patience will win him over and a trap will be unnecessary. We'll see how that goes for a while.

If he is truly feral, I will definitely check with the local shelter. We have a couple of excellent ones in town.

Thanks!

irisblue

(32,929 posts)
7. Keep on keeping food & shelter available
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:01 PM
Mar 2018

When the cat gets a little more used to you, try bits of cooked chicken while you sit outside. Could take awhile.

femmedem

(8,196 posts)
9. You can probably catch him by doing what you're doing, but it will take a while. But I'd trap him.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:22 PM
Mar 2018

If you rent or borrow a trap, it won't traumatize him as much as you think. The big issue is what will you do with him when you catch him? If you or his potential adopter can put him in a small room like a bathroom isolated from your other cats, he will probably come around pretty quickly if he is Puppy or another stray.

I hope everything works out for you and this cat. I have five rescued strays in my house now, and two more who walk inside for some food and shelter when the weather is truly bad. One of the two is a true feral, but he spent a lot of time sitting by my windows when he was young, getting to know my cats through the screens.

I have other ferals that I've trapped, neutered and released, and still feed. They get over being trapped. None of them ever disappeared afterward

I've never regretted trapping one, and I still feel badly about one that I didn't trap quickly enough, and who came to a bad end.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
14. Thanks!
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:36 PM
Mar 2018

You certainly have experience in this! I think I'm going to give the current course some more time. I feel like he's already making some progress and I'd like to see how that goes before I resort to a trap.

This is a good neighborhood for cats, so I'm not too concerned for his safety - at least until Halloween! I'm very glad to know, though, that trapping doesn't traumatize them too much, but I'm a bit afraid that it might interfere with trust building right now, especially since he seems to be responding a little already.

I'll keep your suggestions in mind, though.

femmedem

(8,196 posts)
17. If you have patience--and it sounds like you are great with cats--go for it!
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 08:40 PM
Mar 2018

I'm sure you know best because of your interactions with him. You're right, it might interfere with trust-building at a fragile point.
Thanks for taking care of the little guy. Sounds like he needs you.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
20. Thanks so much for the encouragement.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 10:51 PM
Mar 2018

I've had rescue cats all my life, even up to 7 strays all living with me for the few years I was in Mexico. The difference is that they all came to me. I've never had to work to gain the trust of a frightened and skittish cat, so I'm happy to go very slow and easy.

Appreciate your kind words.


catrose

(5,059 posts)
12. If you really don't want to use a trap, you could put out a cat carrier
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:28 PM
Mar 2018

and keep it stocked with food and water--if it's big enough, a blanket so that Puppy could take shelter in it.

When trying to catch ferals or strays, I was told to use Kentucky Fried Chicken original recipe or Fancy Feast hard food in the trap. Apparently, those are irresistible if you're a cat.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
15. Good advice!
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 07:43 PM
Mar 2018

I have three cat carriers, but none are big enough to hold food and water as well as a cat. The crate I've put out there is big enough, so I'm hoping Puppy (or whoever s/he is) will use it for shelter. It scarfed down the Friskies wet food I put out and ate some of the dry food, as well. KFC and Fancy Feast will definitely be good lures!

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
21. Oh, yes.
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 10:53 PM
Mar 2018

I should have thought of that! When one of my cats has a birthday, we celebrate with a sardine "birthday cake," and it's greatly enjoyed by all of them.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
22. the only think I can think of to change
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 04:31 PM
Mar 2018

would be to orient the crate so that he can see who is coming. Maybe at a 90 degree angle to your door so that you can see inside, too.

Have the plastic overhang the opening so that there is just a little space to see out of. At the shelter where I volunteer we use small cardboard boxes turned on their sides, with blankets hanging over the fronts about 3/4 of the way. These are placed inside their cages at a 90 degree angle to the front of the cages so that the shy ones can hide until they are used to things.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
23. Excellent advice.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:13 PM
Mar 2018

The tenant who wants to try to keep the cat has taken over operations. His apartment is located in a much quieter area of the complex, with denser shrubbery in front and about 2 feet of clear space between the shrubs and the building. He's already done exactly what you suggest.

The crate is set at an angle between the shrubs and the building, with a clear view of both the sidewalk and his door. The crate lining has been sprinkled with catnip, food is set right in front of it, and a heavy towel flaps down about halfway over the opening.

When I did my rounds last night, I saw the cat sitting a few feet in front of his apartment. He looked like he was deciding whether to risk getting closer to check out the catnip and wet food smells. I haven't had a chance to talk to the tenant yet today, but he's the kind of person that cats and dogs seem drawn to, and I'm really curious for an update from him.

Thank you! I'll keep you all updated when there's any significant progress.

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