N.Y. senator vows to pass toughest gun laws in nation

[jpak]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/04/gun-control-new-york/1809857/

ALBANY, N.Y. — A breakaway group of New York legislators vowed Friday to help Gov. Andrew Cuomo pass the strongest assault-weapons ban in the country.

Sen. Jeffrey Klein, a Democrat from the Bronx, N.Y., who heads the now-five-member Independent Democratic Conference, said after a 90-minute meeting in Cuomo's office that the group supports the governor's legislation "wholeheartedly" and that he hopes it will be passed as soon as possible — preferably this month.

The governor has yet to reveal his gun-control proposal publicly but has said one is expected as part of his State of the State address Wednesday.

"I think we're on the same page," Klein said. "We have to do everything possible to ban assault weapons in New York, (as well as) high-capacity magazines, make sure that people with serious mental-health issues don't possess guns. And I think that's what we have to do in the state of New York — pass one of the toughest gun laws in the nation."

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The Backlash is HERE

yup

[cantbeserious]

1. My Governor - Yes - Next Step - Repeal The 2nd Amendment

eom

[jody]

2. Without the 2nd RKBA will be protected by the 9th as a preexisting right not dependent on our

Constitution

[cantbeserious]

3. So Says You - The Fact Of The Matter Is That We Can Outlaw All Firearms - Just Takes Time

eom

[jody]

8. Please explain your authority for destroying all rights. They do not depend on our Constitution. nt

[Kolesar]

4. And presumably any schizo who can sign his name can get a concealed carry permit

and a weapon that can mow down dozens of children in ten minutes? Is not that your definition of freedom and a "civil right"?

[jody]

9. Please read and understand SCOTUS UNITED STATES v. CRUIKSHANK ET AL. 92 U.S. 542 (1876)

[jpak]

5. So is the right to ban guns for public safety reasons

yup

[jody]

10. jpak you know I didn't say that. #1 wanted to repeal the 2nd. We the People accept some

infringement of individual rights for a balance with social benefits.

Government has no authority to prohibit any right, just some infringement.

[rl6214]

14. Aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Good luck with that sparky

[cantbeserious]

29. Every Societal Change Begins With the First Step - DUI Laws, Smoking Laws - Suffrage

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[iiibbb]

33. Yup... Drunk Driving - SOLVED; Smoking issues - SOLVED; Womens Rights - SOLVED

[cantbeserious]

34. Glad To See You Recognize The Progress That Has Been Made - Next Stop - Gun Control

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[GreenStormCloud]

28. Won't happen.

You need 2/3 of both House and Senate and then 3/4 of the states for ratification. Over half the House and almost half the Senate has NRA rating of "A", and there are many pro-gun states.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

6. the grunting has begun...

[Kolesar]

11. And the hyenas circle at the DU...eom

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

12. Here on the side of sanity...

...we also characterize the behavior of the pro-control Nazis as circular, referring to them as being in the charlie-foxtrot configuration.

[chaska]

7. I'm not pro or anti gun particularly, but....

I just find it interesting how anti-gun New York is, or rather its politicians (protectors of privilege that they are). New York, the central location for the new robber baron era. Let's do protect those Wall Streeters.

To any crazy gun nuts who might be reading this, David Koch lives at 740 Park Ave., as do many other criminals.

[Eleanors38]

21. Why is Putnam Co. resisting revealing names of legal gun-owners?

Maybe because this MSM move is getting a little too close for comfort. Is it possible that some of these permit-holders may be strong GC advocates?

[Puha Ekapi]

25. Wouldn't be the first time.

[Ashgrey77]

30. Best response so far. n/t

[rl6214]

13. "A breakaway group"...I wonder why they call it a breakaway group?

Maybe because they are out of the norm, radical and without much chance of passing.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

15. Obviously, these politicians should take away firearms from women who are being stalked by

violent ex-boyfriends, violent ex-husbands, and by violent criminals who like to stalk but may not even know their names.

These women, including any rape victims, have firearms whose only purpose is to kill other people.

And, in this modern age, all these women probably have cell phones so they can easily call the police.

/sarcasm off

[AnotherMcIntosh]

16. "911 did not stop an Indiana home invasion, three bullets did"

"HAMMOND IN, Nov 2007 – She was on the phone to the 911 system approx 5 minutes before shots fired. 5 minutes while this guy was breaking in to her home and looking for her! Not a cop in sight, only her firearm to protect her.

She was attacked by stalker Ryan Bergner. Prior to this he had slashed her tires, kicked at her door , accosted her at work, broken in to her house and stolen from her. Six police complaints filed against him did not stop him. 911 did not stop him. Three bullets did.

http://eoars.avrnlive.com/welcome-to-eye-on-america-roadshow/2010/12/08/911-did-not-stop-an-indiana-home-invasion-three-bullets-did/

[holdencaufield]

19. She had a choice ...

... use a firearm or move closer to a doughnut shop.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

20. In some communities, fewer cops are at the donut shops because police services are being cut back.

There are some reports of the cut-backs on the web. See, e.g.,

Fifth-Most Crime Ridden City in America Dismisses a Fourth of its Police Force. 911 Still in Service

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117297556

[Spryguy]

32. A third of the crime was probably committed by the cops

[Remmah2]

23. Bloomberg wants to ban donut shops.

[holdencaufield]

24. Because Bloomie ...

... doesn't have to go to shops for either his doughnuts or his cops -- both are available to him 24/7 with a wave of his hand.

And, at the end of the day, isn't that what bans are all about? Guns (and doughnuts) for me but not for thee.

[Clames]

17. Anti-gun extremists dragging their knuckles again.

Douchebaggery at work but mostly empty talk and rhetoric. Makes themselves and other anti-gun extremists feel better about getting whipped in the courts for the last decade or so.


Yup.

[Eleanors38]

22. ...and putting at risk other Democrats who don't share his extremism.

[Puha Ekapi]

26. That's what's really troubling...

...about all this. If our leadership doesn't come to their collective senses and insists on pushing hard on highly restrictive gun control legislation, we'll have Kontrakt with Amerika Part Deux in 2014, and most likely a Republikan President in 2016. It's a Newt Gingrich wet dream.

[Ashgrey77]

31. It's like one step forward, two steps backwards.

All the progress and gains we've made in the last 4 years will be swept aside for conservative town, again. I'm not looking forward to that.

[holdencaufield]

18. Steps to a successful political career ...

... Step 1) Pander to the extremists in your party

... Step 2) Do nothing and blame it on obstructionists

... Step 3) Rinse and Repeat

[Tuesday Afternoon]

27. New York is a huge state. Seems like the tail is wagging the dog here.

Wonder how the rest of state's constituents feel about this.