TN: Invasion suspect, homeowner identified

[X_Digger]

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/jan/13/kcso-shot-in-butt-during-break-in-suspect-dumped/?partner=popular

[div class='excerpt']KNOXVILLE — A Curtis Road homeowner shot and seriously wounded a burglar early this afternoon, according to the Knox County Sheriff's Office.

The burglar was hit twice with a 12-gauge shotgun.

Suspect Christopher Wayne Reno's wounds, which include an injury to the buttocks area, "appear to be serious," KCSO Chief Deputy Eddie Biggs said.

Despite those wounds, the burglar ran out of the house and was driven away in a car driven by a companion who then abandoned him outside the McDonald's Restaurant on Millertown Pike.

Insert your own Forrest Gump joke..

[ManiacJoe]

1. Not much in the way of facts available.

However, "shot in the ass" is going to initially raise some questions of necessity.

[ileus]

2. Probably loaded with 7's or 8'...next time load up with 00

I don't use anyting smaller than #4's to hunt with...

[Hoyt]

4. Things turned out OK, but you think he should have used more lethal shot.

[PavePusher]

6. If he was capable of running away, he was capable of attacking. n/t

[Hoyt]

7. He was running away. Not easy for him to attack you. Calm down.

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[PavePusher]

11. Calm down? Errr, from what?

[Hoyt]

14. Sorry, I should have said "get rational." You can't even be satisfied with stopping a robbery.

You want guts flowing out in the street. The victim in this case defended himself. But that is not enough for you.

[SteveW]

20. "Guts flowing out in the street?" Well, at least it's not blood anymore.

Most experts in defensive use of firearms recommend firing until the attacker is rendered incapacitated; running (in any direction) does not indicate incapacitation.

[Hoyt]

23. Yea, I can hear you guys eating up your instructor's words -- "shoot the fucker in the back."

Heck, you don't get many chances to use the objects of your affection against a human very often -- so you want to make sure you take advantage of the opportunity.

You guys have a problem. Anyone really interested in self-defense -- and not something else -- is content with thwarting an attack.

[ileus]

26. guts kinda just drag in the street...the don't flow very well

the get caught up on everything...

[SteveW]

28. Yeah, and running through them is problematic. nt

[PavePusher]

30. Not at all. I pointed out a potential flaw in someone's choice of action/preparedness.

Once again, you project far to much, extrapolating from zero to infinity without data.

[ileus]

9. ok but not ideal...what if he was to return

With his own shotgun/44/Ak....

Life is too valuable to risk it with substandard SD ammunition.

[Hoyt]

13. Lord man. "Self-defense" is not shooting someone when they are down.

You are not Jesus, judge, jury and exectutioner, no matter how much you think your weapons give you that right/power.

I hope the guy with the shotgun in this case doesn't listen to the callous gun owners here who think the perp should have been executed. He protected himself, stopped the robbery, the police caught the perp.

That's how it is supposed to work. Not with some gun culture fanatic loading his gun and shooting so that no one escapes alive.

[Jean V. Dubois]

15. So you think people should use the least effective ammunition in their self defense firearms?

The post you replied to said nothing of shooting someone when they are down, but instead was speaking of the type of ammunition used in the shotgun. Do you want people to use ineffective ammunition?

[Hoyt]

16. Sounds like it was VERY effective to me. Just not enough blood/guts on ground for some of you.

[Jean V. Dubois]

19. What's your public policy solution to this "problem", if any?

Would you restrict the use of buckshot or slugs?

[burf]

17. I would like to know

and hopefully it will be reported what Reno's priors (if any) look like.

[SteveW]

21. I think the point was that the thug was NOT "down," but still on his feet...

thus still representing a threat.

The guy with the shotgun should reconsider his ammunition choice and perhaps his aim (point); perhaps the thug would have gone down with one shot and not two. But proper aim/point would have been the mid-section of the torso, almost surely resulting in incapacitation, and probably death. All with one shot, not two.

[Hoyt]

22. He was stopped, which is what self defense is about. Whatayouwant -- a head to mount?

[SteveW]

24. "He was stopped?" Uh, he was running. With both legs...

I realize that you have been emboldened with your attacks ("Whatayouwant -- a head to mount?&quot , but please do not reference me.

[Hoyt]

25. He was no longer a threat -- well to rational people.

The attempted robbery was over. No need to shoot him in the back.

[ellisonz]

31. So much for the noble idea of self-defense...

Losing their humanity

[SteveW]

29. No, according to the OP link, he was manifestly not "stopped." nt

[Hoyt]

32. Sure as heck was. He was fleeing. Then again, I haven't invested a lot in preparing to shoot people.

Most of you guys have invested heavily in a cache of weapons, training on shooting people, buying the latest lethal accessory, NRA dues, etc. I guess it's all just a missed "opportunity" to many in the "gun culture" if you can't thump your chest and shout "I shot him at 25 yards, fleeing for his life" in the unlikely event you actually encounter a situation.

[ileus]

27. My boss has a Hydra-Kinetic bean bag chambered and 00 after that.

I suppose it's a good idea to help cover you in the eyes of the law but kinda unsafe. If the threat is serious enough to pull the trigger you should take it serious and not play with the perp using trinket rounds.

Beanbags and rubber bullet rounds are probably fine for keeping kids off your lawn so they do have a place in society.

[rl6214]

33. Vaudville at it's best.

[oneshooter]

12. I would have thought that you would prefer rocksalt.

[Jean V. Dubois]

5. Almost certainly birdshot in this case, given that the perp ran away after being hit twice.

I've been thinking about getting some Centurion 12 Ga. loads for my Mossberg, they make a "buck and ball" load with one .65" ball and 6 #1 buckshot pellets.

If it was good enough for the Founding Fathers...

[ileus]

8. I've seen that in CDT

Probably not a bad investment for anyone with a SD shotgun.

[rrneck]

34. Lawsy. If that don't do it, nothing will. nt

[burf]

3. Reno's accomplice was a real partner.

His buddy gets shot in the ass and he won't even take him thru the drive thru!

[one-eyed fat man]

10. Of course he was steamed

Think about all the blood his shot in the ass partner was getting on the upholstery.

[burf]

18. I guess it depends on what

shot was used and how big Reno's ass is.