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The quintessential gun nut (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 OP
Cali_Democrat LOL but neither side has a corner on stupid. nt jody Jan 2013 #1
No, but the demonization of gun owners marches on. jeepnstein Jan 2013 #3
Well, you can mostly thank your allies. earthside Jan 2013 #6
Yeah, that cartoon is totally unrealistic... DanTex Jan 2013 #7
Oh, SNAP. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #18
Are you admitting that all gun owners are "gun nuts"? AAO Jan 2013 #22
Banning the AR15 is a non-starter. jeepnstein Jan 2013 #26
I prefer stupid to stupid with a gun! nt Walk away Jan 2013 #4
Noted. I understand and accept your faith. nt jody Jan 2013 #5
AKA...Alex Jones. Paranoid Extraordinaire. libdem4life Jan 2013 #2
Is that a C cord he's playing? ileus Jan 2013 #8
I think it is C minor gejohnston Jan 2013 #9
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6-0 to keep this post. msanthrope Jan 2013 #11
what dumbass alerted and wasted our good jurors time? they have better things to do. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #13
What a fucking sick joke the "juries" here actually are. There's NO presumption of fairness or even zimbabwe Jan 2013 #14
respectable bigotry and hypocrisy gejohnston Jan 2013 #17
Indeed. I'll thank you for some sanity while I can, before the Gestapo serves me their Hemlock. zimbabwe Jan 2013 #19
-..__... UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #21
You just noticed that? jeepnstein Jan 2013 #27
LOL! Delicate flowers are delicate. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #15
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #12
I'm Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #16
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Ladies and Gentlemen, say good-bye to zimbabwe AAO Jan 2013 #23
He will return Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #28
That's about what the gun folk Ed Schultz showed on his show BainsBane Jan 2013 #24
Most of the people I shoot with ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #25

jeepnstein

(2,631 posts)
3. No, but the demonization of gun owners marches on.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jan 2013

The OP is trying to promote a stereotype that is flat out ridiculous. But that's how you do it. You create ridiculous generalizations, engage in downright hateful speech, and make your opponent into something less than human. That's what I'm seeing out of a lot of the anti-gun crowd these days. And they wonder why gun owners don't trust them?

earthside

(6,960 posts)
6. Well, you can mostly thank your allies.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:00 PM
Jan 2013

The list of outrageous, crazy things in the media that pro-gunners have been saying in the past three weeks is creating an extreme image of the gun owner.

The anti-gun people don't have to do much when you have the 2nd Amendment absolutists comparing gun regulations to the yellow star Jews had to wear in Nazi Germany; to Hitler and Stalin; to time to start thinking about "killing some people"; to a second American revolution; to conjecturing that MLK Jr. would for all African-Americans carrying guns; etc.

Those of you out there who are sensible gun rights advocates need to be sounding rational and supporting something like universal background checks --- and not letting the NRA, Alex Jones, Louis Gohmert, Rush Limbaugh and the likes of Larry Platt be the public face of the pro-gun position.

I own two guns; I am not afraid of guns and I am not against people buying and owning guns -- but I support limiting the size of clips and I support universal background checks paid for by a tax on all guns sales.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
7. Yeah, that cartoon is totally unrealistic...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:21 PM
Jan 2013


Oh, and I doubt if anyone really wonders why these gun nuts don't "trust" them.

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
18. Oh, SNAP.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:33 PM
Jan 2013

James Yeager has become the definitive response to each and every pro-gunolatry discourse.

"Here's the James Yeager video. You lose."

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
22. Are you admitting that all gun owners are "gun nuts"?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jan 2013

Then don't be accusing the cartoon of demonizing gun owners. If you are unwilling to analyze the facts, which are:

The second amendment is not threatened. If you are guaranteed anything, it is the "right to bear arms" - not "the right to bear any and all arms". You are not permitted to own a nuclear bomb, and society in general is reflected by current law until society decides the laws need to be changed. That is what is happening right now.

What will happen is variants on the following:

Close the gun show and private sale loopholes - background checks for every gun sale and during the purchase of ammunition, because a gun without ammo is a bat.

Eliminate the sale of military style semi-automatic assault rifles and large capacity magazines

Those are the only things I've heard consistently and they seem pretty common-sense to me.

jeepnstein

(2,631 posts)
26. Banning the AR15 is a non-starter.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:08 AM
Jan 2013

Allowing NICS checks for private sales is a great idea. Banning a firearm because it is not aesthetically pleasing or because some deranged criminal got his hands on one is just not anything I'm willing to discuss.

Let's talk about ways to deal with the phenomenon of middle class young men "suddenly" turning into monsters. As if nobody noticed their behavior up until the killing commenced. Let's talk about drug gangs enforcing business contracts through murder and intimidation. And let's most definitely continue to shed light on domestic violence. It's a poor workman who blames the tool.

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msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
11. 6-0 to keep this post.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:45 PM
Jan 2013

At Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:39 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

The quintessential gun nut
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172102504

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

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"Do not post bigotry based on someone's race or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion or lack thereof, disability, or other comparable personal characteristic" I think casting all southerners or all overweight people as lunatics fits the definition

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Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Is the Stars and Bars an indication of Southernness? I see it on trucks in the Northeast.
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zimbabwe

(8 posts)
14. What a fucking sick joke the "juries" here actually are. There's NO presumption of fairness or even
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jan 2013

minimal intelligence...the willingness to exercise censorship based on their own prejudices is the only qualification. This god damned place would be far better off with NO 'moderation' than the horseshit way it's run at present. It's a fucking mutual jackoff society with a small cadre of basement-dwelling Cheeto-munching sociopaths who instanteneously reject, threaten and insult any newcomer with even the tiniest scintilla of dissent to the Lingua Franca...complete and total fealty to the incumbent political correctness is de jure and anyone who dares to say anything to disrupt their little tatting party will shortly be served a "pizza"..(their juvenile appellation for being banned). How sad it all really is.

 

zimbabwe

(8 posts)
19. Indeed. I'll thank you for some sanity while I can, before the Gestapo serves me their Hemlock.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:35 PM
Jan 2013

Boy, I remember when Democrats were way more sane than Republicans.

sigh

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BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
24. That's about what the gun folk Ed Schultz showed on his show
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:52 PM
Jan 2013

looked like, plus a few skinheads thrown in.

Straw Man

(6,622 posts)
25. Most of the people I shoot with ...
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:19 AM
Jan 2013

... are software engineers. I'm not sure why that is. Might be geographical.

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