Emily gets her gun...........

[burf]

well, sort of.

The story of a young lady who decides she wants to be armed in the nation's capitol. To all the banners here, how's this for "reasonable restrictions"? The entire fiasco started on Oct 5th 2011.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/?page=1

The story has the newest posts on page 1. The saga starts on page 2 for some reason.

[ileus]

1. Why does she hate her fellow citizens and society as a whole....rude impolite baser gunner.

She just wants to play spider woman and slay a dragon in her dream world of survivalist bullshit. Doesn't she realize guns kill people and strapping on a gun or two won't save her. She's just a paranoid who is mentally ill...probably a hidden criminal.

[burf]

2. No, she more of the milque-toast variety rude toter.

She so far, hasn't got one of them red dot sniper scope shoot around corner thingies. But then again, after having to put up with all the obstacles, it may be just a matter of time!

[MicaelS]

3. This woman has been trying for over 3 months to get a handgun

And she still hasn't been able to take possession of it. I guess this is the Gun Prohibitionists kind of "reasonable restrictions".

[burf]

4. What would the prohibitionists

say if Emily was trying to register to vote, or get a speedy trial and the rules were the same? But some Constitutional Amendments are "more equal" than other I guess.

[PavePusher]

6. Anyone who bitches about having to provide ID to vote has no leg to stand on....

if they support this kind of obstructionism.

[PavePusher]

5. D.C. needs to go squarely fuck itself... oops, too late.

Edit: I hope the courts and the pro-2A lawyers (and the ACLU) are watching this series.

[spin]

7. Isn't it strange how easy it is for a criminal to get a gun in D.C.

It's almost like the city is trying to protect the criminals from honest citizens.

[Simo 1939_1940]

10. I recall your story about your daughter, spin......

My sister has been on the receiving end of more than one sexually-related assault which wasn't "completed".

This story literally makes me sick to my stomach, and beyond.



Edited to clarify: While Emily's tenacity is inspirational, what is horrifyingly sad is that so many other women (and other citizens) will be dissuaded from even attempting to own a firearm by a system that was intentionally constructed to be miserable.

[burf]

8. Update.

MILLER: I will testify before D.C. city council about guns

Through the course of writing the “Emily Gets Her Gun” series on getting a firearm legally, I’ve become all too familiar with the ins and outs of the registration process in Washington, D.C. Now I will have the opportunity to share my experiences, complaints and suggestions with the local lawmakers who have the power to change these regulations.

I will be testifying before the D.C. city council’s Judiciary Committee on Monday, Jan. 30.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/jan/26/miller-i-will-testify-dc-city-council-about-guns/

Maybe this will be the start of reforming the ridiculous requirements for gun ownership in DC.

[burf]

9. Looks as though she's in the home stretch.

MILLER: Applying to register a gun in D.C.

While my new gun was being transferred to the District from Virginia, I returned to D.C.’s Gun Registry Office to turn in my registration application. As you will see in what follows, this should have been simple step, but it took all day. Like everything else in my effort to get a legal handgun in this city has been far more complicated and time-consuming that it needed to be.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/jan/27/miller-applying-register-gun-dc/

[rrneck]

11. How woude...

[burf]

12. Emily testifies before the DC Council

I testified on Monday before the District of Columbia Council’s Judiciary Committee about my experiences and reporting on the gun registration process in the city.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/jan/31/miller-my-testimony-dc-city-council-video/

Common sense gun control at its finest.

[gejohnston]

13. the most important point

I had no idea registering a gun would be this expensive. I think the registration packet should state these costs up front. This is a lot of money for me, and I have a good job. So I don’t know how a lower-income DC resident could afford almost $500 in fees to have a legal gun.

That is really the point of all hoops?

[burf]

14. I wonder when that part is gonna be declared

unconstitutional. The argument in opposition is a no brainer, what other activities can fees be charged for? Certainly not voting, look the hubbub on voter ID, and the voter doesn't have to pay for the ID card.

But, the same people keep getting elected to the same positions, to do the same things. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Simo 1939_1940]

15. There is so much hypocrisy in the pro-restriction movement that

you need a bulldozer to clear it all. Case in point from the article/testimony:

Above all that, the biggest problem is being a woman and trying to find a way to feel safe while taking a class at a strange man’s house. Since the list only gives the instructors’ phone numbers - but no important details such as address, website or business affiliation - they are almost impossible to investigate.

I don’t believe it it right that the DC police require me to go to an armed stranger's house - in another state - for any reason. I already don’t feel safe. That’s why I wanted a gun in the first place and still do.

[Hoyt]

16. Glad to see she's getting support from the likes of right wing Aholes like Newt Gingrich. Figures.

[friendly_iconoclast]

17. Dick Cheney supports marriage equality. Should we therefore oppose it?

If you insist on using the associational fallacy, I'm sure you're familiar with one Michael Bloomberg, billionaire publisher, mayor of New York City and scourge
of Occupy Wall Street. His stance on guns is almost the same as yours.

Sauce for goose, meet gander...

[Hoyt]

18. Ah, but you miss a big point -- Emily went to the Ahole Gingrich for help in her poor gun plight.

[burf]

19. Yeah, she should just shut up and

let the benevolent government of DC jack her around in her pursuit to exercise her Constitutional Rights. How uppity can an individual citizen get? Hopefully she will find a good attorney and sue the fuckers until their ears bleed.

[X_Digger]

20. Whoosh, the point must've parted your hair. n/t

[burf]

22. I'm sure she would have gotten a whole lotta

help from her representative, Delegate Eleanor Norton Holmes.

[DragonBorn]

33. So what?

What is the point? Because she went to a Republican for help in a situation where Republicans are tenacious. Should we hate and vilify her because of her request to him? I think Newts scum but if you hatred blinds you so much that you can't see past Newt and see this woman's plight, well that's unfortunate for you.

I mean Obama's had to work with Republicans in the past to get stuff done, should we hate and vilify President Obama because associates with the icky Republicans. Its a very childish attitude to have.

[oneshooter]

28. Do you agree with this type of legislation?

[burf]

21. MILLER: My gun registration is approved

Yet things are still never as simple as they seem when it comes to District gun regulations. I had to delve further into the convoluted and undocumented laws and rules before I could actually bring my gun home.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/feb/3/miller-my-gun-registration-approved/

Every step of the way, just more obstruction. After four months of waiting, there is a ten day waiting period under "the cool down laws".

[PavePusher]

23. Un-fucking-believeable.

And this is what some people consider "reasonable". Fuck that.

[iverglas]

24. and once again the voice of the confused is heard in the DU Guns forum

... crying:

THE WASHINGTON FUCKING TIMES??

burf my dear, you appear to be in need of an intervention.

Last week it was Glenn Beck's website, now it's the washington fucking times.

If you give us a date and place where we can find you, we can start the deprogramming.

Sooner would be better than later, if you ask me. You are at risk of brain damage, I am fearing.


That Emily, she's a smart cookie, she is:

“Are there any regulations in my leaving? I mean do I need to bring any kind of transportation?” I asked. She said she didn't understand my question.

... “I read the entire registration packet and didn’t see anything about a lock box. Does it say it in there?” I asked.

“Well, I don’t know it verbatim,” said the woman working in the police registry office of the 22-page instructions given out there.

“Is this the law?” I asked.

“I’m not going to say it’s the law to have a box,” said the woman working at the police department tasked with enforcing the gun law. “But normally when you are transporting, it has to be in some kind of locked container - a box or a back pack.”

Ah, I got it. Buried in the packet in Part IV, Section 9, the third bullet point says, “When transporting a firearm in a manner other than in a vehicle, it must be unloaded, inside a locked container, and separate from any ammunition.

She got it. Impressive.

[friendly_iconoclast]

27. Any other first-hand descriptions of DC's gun licensing procedure floating around the intertubes?

If not, we'll just have to grin and bear it. Personally, it was worth giving Sun-Myung Moon the page hits if only for the description of the Gilliamesque
bureacracy. One wonders if a Form 27-B/6 was involved somewhere....

[oneshooter]

29. Do you agree with, and would you( if you could) propose this as federal law?

[iverglas]

30. moi?

I don't "propose" anything for your laws.

I will sometimes make recommendations, if asked directly.

In this instance, my interest in finding out what the "this" is, is insufficient to motivate me to do it, so I couldn't respond to a direct request, I fear.

However, since it appears to relate to individuals being licensed to possess handguns, my recommendation would that it not be done, since my recommendation is that individuals not be permitted to possess handguns except in very exceptional circumstances. (Sports shooting and employment-related purposes, for instance, do not require permission to possess other than in the course of those activities).

So I guess my reply amounts to mu. Your question contains the premise that individuals should be permitted to possess handguns, so I must reject it as unanswerable.

[pipoman]

25. Here's a link to the first story posted about Emily..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=484203

Then, within days, the Washington city council were announcing that they were looking at reform..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117228

Didn't ever hear what the outcome of this was..

[burf]

26. The last I heard was Ms Miller testified

before the council and Mendelson introduced his bill.

[burf]

31. MILLER: Emily got her gun!

I finally got my gun in Washington, D.C. I brought it home today from the District’s firearms’ registry office.

After months of aggravation, hundreds of dollars in fees, countless hours jumping over hurdles, I am now a gun owner and finally exercising my second amendment right to keep arms (bearing arms is still illegal in the nation’s capital).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/feb/8/miller-emily-got-her-gun/

It is simply amazing what this young lady had to go through to be "allowed" to own a gun in the District. Looking back, I learned a lot on the process and what is really ironic, on I titled a a post "Looks as though she's in the home stretch." back on Jan 24th. The "home stretch" lasted just about two weeks!

[burf]

32. The Brady Bunch weighs in.

In a CNN story on Emily's getting a gun, a spokeswoman for Brady says:

"One of the reasons we strongly support the District of Columbia's gun laws, is we think that anybody who wants to exercise the responsibility that is gun ownership should be primarily concerned with protecting the lives of innocent people," Caroline Brewer said. "There are obviously a number of different steps and the processes are there because they are trying to take the greatest care to make sure that the people who receive these guns are responsible."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/08/a-loaded-issue-newspaper-editor-gets-her-gun/

Never mind the "lives of innocent people" who choose to protect themselves but are unable to because of the ridiculous requirements of the DC laws.

This is what passes for logic with the gun banning community?