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Mon Mar 18, 2013, 05:06 AM

 

Ruled a Threat to Family, but Allowed to Keep Guns

Early last year, after a series of frightening encounters with her former husband, Stephanie Holten went to court in Spokane, Wash., to obtain a temporary order for protection.

Her former husband, Corey Holten, threatened to put a gun in her mouth and pull the trigger, she wrote in her petition. He also said he would “put a cap” in her if her new boyfriend “gets near my kids.” In neat block letters she wrote, “ He owns guns, I am scared.”

The judge’s order prohibited Mr. Holten from going within two blocks of his former wife’s home and imposed a number of other restrictions. What it did not require him to do was surrender his guns.

About 12 hours after he was served with the order, Mr. Holten was lying in wait when his former wife returned home from a date with their two children in tow. Armed with a small semiautomatic rifle bought several months before, he stepped out of his car and thrust the muzzle into her chest. He directed her inside the house, yelling that he was going to kill her.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/18/us/facing-protective-orders-and-allowed-to-keep-guns.html?hp&_r=0

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Reply Ruled a Threat to Family, but Allowed to Keep Guns (Original post)
SecularMotion Mar 2013 OP
Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #1
av8r1998 Mar 2013 #2
Jenoch Mar 2013 #3
raidert05 Mar 2013 #4

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2013, 09:02 AM

1. Well, I support surrendering guns temp. with a TRO...

 

and a flag on a NICS test. Don't know if it would help with someone that committed to control & violence, but there it is. I also support a uni-NICS test as long as it is constitutional and is not a backdoor to registration/confiscation plans.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 18, 2013, 09:56 AM

2. of course ....

 

I do as well.
Due process is running it's course, and I have no problem with surrender of firearms when under a TRO...
Provided 2 things:
They are returned upon resolution of athe matter AND
They are returned in the same condition in which they were surrendered.

I also support a uni-NICS test as long as it is constitutional and is not a backdoor to registration/confiscation plans.

I actually conviced an Anti gunner this was a good idea ... go figure...

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:39 PM

3. The judge in that case

 

should have ordered that the guns be turned over to law enforcement and that he not acquire any other weapons.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:49 PM

4. Sometimes..

 

I wonder why the judgements aren't automatically tied in with confiscation of gun till resolution of the conflict...It would seem common place in m mind.

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