Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumWith gun nuts hoarding bullets, will cops be disarmed?
Pryors problem, he explains to Salon, is that hes having trouble finding ammunition and firearms for his officers, thanks to a national shortage. The cause? A run on supply from gun lovers afraid that Congress or state legislatures will impose new gun control laws in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting.
Everyone is thinking, theyre going to stop manufacturing, or theyre going to be taxing and all this, so its just this mentality of, lets all buy up everything now just in case. And it hurts us, Pryor said. This is ridiculous. This shouldnt be happening to law enforcement.
But hes hardly alone. Rommel Dionisio, a New York-based firearms industry analyst at Wedbush Inc., confirms the trend is a national phenomenon. Most certainly, ammunition is in very tight supply in addition to firearms, thanks to consumer fears of possible bans, he told Salon in an email.
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/27/cops_are_running_out_of_bullets_thank_the_nra/
blueknight
(2,831 posts)from what i heard, the law enforcement agencies get first dibs on ammo before it ever reaches the store shelves
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Unless there's a contractual obligation, the manufacturers will shift supply to places where demand means higher prices.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)They compete in the market with everyone else for it.
Feds have some special laws for strategically required procurements, but using it is damn near impossible these days for over the counter stuff.
Paul E Ester
(952 posts)NYPD is something like 20K policemen. The local department with 5-6 cops shops at the local gun store. The departments need to form a coop so they get a volume order in.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)After all the mayor needs the "sixth bigest army in the world"!
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... most metropolitan PD's only require their officers to train with firearms once a quarter -- and that 50 rounds is the most they are required to fire at that time -- that makes 200 rounds a year.
On the other hand -- I shoot every Sunday -- sometimes straight range, sometimes single-action competition, and sometimes hunting -- and it's not uncommon for me to shoot more than 50 rounds a week -- that makes at least 2,600 rounds a year or more than 10 times what a typical LEO is required to shoot (if I were to add up receipts it would probably be more).
So, it makes sense that civilians, like myself, buy in bulk. It's not hoarding, it's simple economics. Personally, I think that any LEO, who carries a firearm and is required to use it should train at least as often as I.
And it's not the NRA who is spreading the message of potential bans -- it's Mayor Bloomberg, Diane Feinstein and many of our own Democratic representatives.
I guarantee that if the President was speaking out against condoms and there were multiple bills in legislature seeking to ban or limit the purchase of condoms, you see them disappear off the shelves just like guns and gun-related accessories -- simple economics.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)...I shot once a week (.22 target rifle practice and competition). When I bought ammo I generally got about 1,500 rounds at a time. That would be generally every 5 - 6 weeks. In college the ROTC sponsored the team and supplied ammo. Usually about 7,000 rounds a month.
At 17 I learned to reload. My org had Garands and I helped reloaded about 1,200 rounds. We also bought another few hundred. About 70 rounds including practice for about 17 - 18 people adds up fast.
ileus
(15,396 posts)ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)melm00se
(4,989 posts)a DPAS rating on their order, they go to the front of the line.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)However, if they are not feds, they have to compete with the rest of us from a legal standpoint.
Clames
(2,038 posts)Their shrill cries involving the word "ban" have this effect every time.
spin
(17,493 posts)JohnnyBoots
(2,969 posts)don't equal the BILLIONS of rounds being acquired by DHS and other agencies. This is anti gun propaganda by Salon.
Clames
(2,038 posts)...you aren't to expect much discussion. Seldom even sticks around to defend any Google dump posted. Facts are inconvenient for that one...
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(19,768 posts)sylvi
(813 posts)Maybe they can go over to Janet Napolitano's house and borrow a cup o' bullets to tide them over.
LAGC
(5,330 posts)Haven't you seen how many rounds cops waste whenever they attempt to gun down someone? It's spray-and-pray, I tell ya! Dozens of shots fired, lucky if even one or two hits.
Maybe this will teach them to conserve ammo and aim before they fire. That way no bystanders are hit.