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Baitball Blogger

(46,655 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:39 AM Jan 2014

Sometimes it helps to see the inconsistencies that occur when Republicans take control of Security

For background, the Sanford Airport is steep in Good ole boy control.

Sanford airport police hold gun rather than arrest armed passenger stopped by TSA

The senior police officer on the scene Friday was Cmdr. Larry Dale, who also serves as Sanford Airport Authority's chief executive officer and president.

"I think the report speaks for itself," Dale said when asked Wednesday afternoon why he didn't arrest Deegan. "We determined the circumstances didn't warrant an arrest in this case."

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Though Deegan was not charged criminally, anyone caught with a gun while attempting to board a commercial flight faces up to $11,000 in federal civil fines, according to TSA.

A religious man, Deegan, 56, serves on the board of a Vero Beach food bank, He Shall Supply Ministries. Like so many other Florida concealed-weapon-permit holders, he said he simply forgot his revolver, loaded with hollow-point rounds, was in his bag until he noticed a TSA officer pointing at her X-ray screen.



http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-sanford-airport-holds-passenger-gun-20140129,0,5064396.story

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Sometimes it helps to see the inconsistencies that occur when Republicans take control of Security (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 OP
I would be fine with this, if the airport police were providing the same petronius Jan 2014 #1
I have an issue with it because I get profiled ever time I go through an Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #4
Unless I missed it, what are you profiled for? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #6
Not male and not white, I guess. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #7
and they think "drug mule" gejohnston Jan 2014 #8
It is a federal jurisdiction gejohnston Jan 2014 #2
The FBI is useless when it comes to applying the laws equally. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #5
I feel the man's mistake was that he was carrying his concealed weapons in his bag. ... spin Jan 2014 #3

petronius

(26,594 posts)
1. I would be fine with this, if the airport police were providing the same
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:49 AM
Jan 2014

accommodation for every other prohibited item that someone inadvertently brings to the checkpoint. They are, right?

Seriously, I agree with the police that carrying any prohibited item up to a checkpoint doesn't necessarily require a legal hammering, if there's no indication or evidence of anything other than an accident. But forgetting that you're carrying a gun is majorly irresponsible, and IMO should come with consequences - like a revocation or suspension of a CCW...

Baitball Blogger

(46,655 posts)
4. I have an issue with it because I get profiled ever time I go through an
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:03 AM
Jan 2014

airport security check. Fair is fair.

Baitball Blogger

(46,655 posts)
7. Not male and not white, I guess.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 01:39 PM
Jan 2014

A Latin American woman who flies alone to or from Ft. Lauderdale or Miami with only hand baggage sends up flags. I was six for six when I went down to help out with my dad years ago when he was recovering for heart surgery.

The nicest profiling was in Ohio. They were so apologetic AND we got bumped to first class. At least they understood the dehumanizing effect of the practice.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
8. and they think "drug mule"
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jan 2014

The nearest thing I can relate to is a Japanese cop wondering why I was driving a car with a non SOFA plate. Reminds me something firearms instructor Massad Ayoob said in a group of African American ministers discussing racial profiling. Basically he said that he couldn't imagine what it was like until 9-11. He said "imagine an Arab American going to the checking a gun in your luggage."
Do we agree on this CA State pol on his proposed ammo registration? He gave a press conference last week that went viral with ridicule.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
2. It is a federal jurisdiction
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 01:57 AM
Jan 2014

and the TSA and FBI decided to do nothing. AFAIK, neither Florida nor Seminole County has a law against taking a gun on an airplane, IIUC, Sanford and Seminole county doesn't have jurisdiction. If he had counterfeit money, they might hold him for the Secret Service. If it wasn't worth their time, the locals would not have any jurisdiction.
Same concept as a pot shop in Colorado or Washington, the local police don't have to enforce federal laws and are free to tell the DEA to pound sand.
At least, that is my understanding, not being a lawyer. Please any lawyers, if I am in error, please let me know.
Are the local FBI and TSA part of the "good old boys"? That said, the minister was being irresponsible by not double checking that he had his carry on and not a range bag.

Baitball Blogger

(46,655 posts)
5. The FBI is useless when it comes to applying the laws equally.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:15 AM
Jan 2014

They have given this county such a wide berth I wonder if the problem is that there are too many good buddies in the Florida branch to be of any use to us.

spin

(17,493 posts)
3. I feel the man's mistake was that he was carrying his concealed weapons in his bag. ...
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:49 AM
Jan 2014

When I carry the weapon it is in on my person. It's much harder to forget that you are "packing heat" if the weapon is in a holster on your belt on in your pocket.

I'm not fond of having a loaded handgun in a bag. It's hard to get to and you may forget your bag and leave it in a restaurant, rest room or taxi. It is also possible some fool may grab your bag and run.

If I have to go to an area where carrying is prohibited, I leave my weapon at home in the safe. I don't like leaving a firearm in a car as it may be stolen. My gun stays with me in a good pocket holster when I go to the store, eat at a restaurant or go the theater.

Of course some here will insist that I carry a weapon because I am excessively fearful. That is a common gun control advocate talking point and as usual, false. I realize that the odds of being attacked by a person who intends to injure or kill me on a given day is about the same as the chance that I will win the Florida Mega Money lotto in the next drawing. Still it could happen and I like to be prepared. I also put my seat belt on when I drive to the grocery store three blocks away and why I have a fire extinguisher 10 feet from where I am sitting. I don't fear getting into an accident nor do I fear my house will catch on fire.

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