Voters to weigh in on cab fares, guns in restaurants

[SecularMotion]

The other two ballot questions center on gun control after state lawmakers last year passed a law to allow people to carry concealed weapons following a federal court ruling that struck down Illinois' long-standing ban.

One question asks whether the state's concealed carry law should be amended to ban the possession of concealed firearms in any establishment that has a liquor license.

The City Council already has adopted an ordinance to revoke liquor licenses from establishments that do not ban firearms, a rule gun rights advocates have promised to fight in court. State law bans weapons only in bars or restaurants that make more than half their money from selling alcohol.

The other referendum asks whether the state should pass a measure to ban magazines with more than 15 rounds. Emanuel has pushed for a state ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, and Gov. Pat Quinn also supported such a measure. But lawmakers overrode a Quinn amendatory veto last summer that would have limited the size of magazines statewide as part of the state concealed carry law.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-city-ballot-referendums-met-20140308,0,1769601.story

[ileus]

1. Are folks lives worth less when visiting a restaurant?

Good news is Virginia scrapped this kind of dangerous law several years ago. Now I can dine at establishments that serve without doing the "virginia tuck" or leaving my personal safety device in my vehicle unsecured.

Safety first...

[Travis_0004]

2. I fail to see how concealing a gun in chiptole is any different than McDonalds

McDonalds does not have a liquor liscense, chipotle probably has 1-2% of their gross sales from alcohol. Obviously the law should require that if you are going to conceal a gun you can not drink, but I'm failing to see the problem.

[DonP]

3. It's already illegal to drink at all while carrying

This would make it illegal to go anywhere that serves alcohol, as opposed to the 51% rule where bars are off limits to carry and restaurants that may serve some alcohol are OK e.g. Olive Garden, Red Lobster etc.

The other thing worth noting is that they can't change the state rules anyway, no matter how many vote for it, Illinois has state wide pre-emption on all CCW laws. No magazine limits, specific model bans etc. for handguns or additional restrictions are allowed by local governments.

Chicago is just really POd that they didn't get "May issue" and the windfall of cash donations to sheriffs it creates and everything else they wanted in the way of restrictions and is now creating new court cases for the NRA to kick their ass in. They haven't won one yet.

[spin]

4. In Florida since "shall issue" concealed carry passed, it has been legal to carry in a restaurant...

that has a liquor license as long as you stay out of the bar portion of the establishment.

The 2013 Florida Statutes

CHAPTER 790
WEAPONS AND FIREARMS

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790.06?License to carry concealed weapon or firearm.—

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12)(a)?A license issued under this section does not authorize any person to openly carry a handgun or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into:

***snip***

12.?Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.06.html

[S_B_Jackson]

5. How long will it take before Chicago's politicians come to recognize the cold, hard reality

That the rest of the state of Illinois is sick of their crap and that State pre-emption overrides their petty bitching?

[friendly_iconoclast]

6. When they get tired of writing checks like these to the SAF, et al.:

The way they've been carrying on, they will likely be writing some more...