Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumThe Single Most Important Fact about our Gun Culture
My views on our gun culture are fairly simple. It can be boiled down to this: the human tradition of the second amendment does not trump the divine revelation of the fifth commandment. Thats because, to repeat, the single most important fact of our gun culture is 30,000 corpses each year.
In case that is still fuzzy, allow me to repeat it one more time: The single most important fact about American gun culture is 30,000 dead people each year. Are there other important questions about property, safety, and liberty? Sure. But the single most important fact is 30,000 corpses.
If it were Al-Quaida killing 30,000 Americans each year, it would be treated as a civilizational emergency requiring a national effort to prevent as many of those deaths as possible. But because it is Americans killing themselves and each other, the reply that I consistently get to that fact is a huge amount of fantasizing about the Great Hitler Gun Confiscation that Is To Come, and a kind of terrified paralysis that turns a blind and hostile eye to even the most common sense attempts to effect even the teeniest change to the status quo.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2014/05/the-single-most-important-fact-about-our-gun-culture.html
Scuba
(53,475 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)the fifth commandment says do not murder, a mistranslation to English. BTW, what does that have to do most of those gun deaths since they are suicides, and most of the remainder being gang related, having nothing to do with gun culture?
Also, why should we care about what some blogger thinks about something he knows nothing about and hasn't done any research?
There is no opposition to smart gun research. The opposition is that if one becomes for sale in the US, only "smart guns" can be sold in New Jersey. That is called corporate welfare and monopoly to a company who makes a very expensive and product of questionable product.
clffrdjk
(905 posts)Well I guess that is not much of a stretch
armueller2001
(609 posts)Chirp... Chirp
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)sarisataka
(18,570 posts)properly translated "Thou shall not commit murder", we should should consider teaching on how it applies to self defence
2263 The legitimate defense of persons and societies is not an exception to the prohibition against the murder of the innocent that constitutes intentional killing. "The act of self-defense can have a double effect: the preservation of one's own life; and the killing of the aggressor. . . . The one is intended, the other is not."65
2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one's own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:
If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's.66
hack89
(39,171 posts)Adequate mental health care would prevent many of those deaths.
spin
(17,493 posts)the number of suicides and murders.
beevul
(12,194 posts)So its the fault of "gun culture" that people make bad choices?
What a load of nonsense.
People decide to kill themselves, and its someone elses fault?
People decide to break the law and murder someone, and its someone elses fault?
How come we never see you guys blame Gerber, Buck, Spyderco, Ginsu, or Kershaw when theres a stabbing?
Because its bullshit from stem to stern, that's why.