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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:56 AM May 2014

Lawsuits a necessary weapon against gun sellers

Hidden safely behind one screen or another, wicked cowards like to insult Rochester’s crime victims. They might type that a teenager deserved to be shot because he was out past 10 p.m. Or that murders of city residents aren’t really so bad because they lead to fewer welfare recipients.

Their towering intellects were on display after news that the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and people hurt by the 2012 Webster Christmas Eve shootings would be suing Gander Mountain.

“If they win, I hope the relatives and everyone involve (sic) get CANCER!” a person using the name Mancave Heywood wrote in Facebook comments following the article. “(Unprintables) in this world just want an easy payout!”

“Heroes no more!” wrote Jennifer Valentine of the two firefighters who were killed rushing to put out a fire on Christmas Eve and the two who survived their injuries.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/local/columnists/bryant/2014/05/24/bryant-lawsuits-necessary-weapon-gun-sellers/9508407/
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Lawsuits a necessary weapon against gun sellers (Original Post) SecularMotion May 2014 OP
care to comment? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #1
Apparently there is a mass outbreak blueridge3210 May 2014 #2
Trolling the comments section? Phew. Eleanors38 May 2014 #3
If the seller committed a crime, sure. Sue them. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #4
I read the article, and Gander Mountain sold to a straw purchaser... friendly_iconoclast May 2014 #5
Unless the straw purchaser gave Gander Mountain a reason to suspect what he was up to AtheistCrusader May 2014 #6
Perhaps Gander Mountain should only hire gun clerks who are ... spin May 2014 #7
Saying they should have known kudzu22 May 2014 #8
Law suits do not require merit... HALO141 May 2014 #9
 

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)
2. Apparently there is a mass outbreak
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:36 AM
May 2014

of FFL's violating Federal Law regarding the sale of firearms and the authorities are incapable of enforcing the law. Or not.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
4. If the seller committed a crime, sure. Sue them.
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:21 AM
May 2014

If the seller followed the law, performed the background check, dotted all I's and crossed all T's on the paperwork, and the background check came back clean, I don't see a mechanism to lay this at their feet.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
5. I read the article, and Gander Mountain sold to a straw purchaser...
Fri May 30, 2014, 01:40 PM
May 2014

...who turned around and resold it to the killer. I'll leave it
to the discerning reader to guess which party has the deepest pockets...

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
6. Unless the straw purchaser gave Gander Mountain a reason to suspect what he was up to
Fri May 30, 2014, 01:43 PM
May 2014

I don't see a way to suggest they should be in any way liable.


It IS possible for the straw purchaser to do so, but I don't see any indication of it here.

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
8. Saying they should have known
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:10 PM
May 2014

is the same as saying they should be profiling their customers. I say they should follow the letter of the law -- no more, no less.

HALO141

(911 posts)
9. Law suits do not require merit...
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:17 AM
May 2014

only opportunity. So I've been told by several attorneys.

Having been duped by a straw purchaser is not a crime. Selling to an obvious straw purchaser is. I'm sure that the dividing line between the two would have to be determined by a jury and their estimation of exactly what constitutes a "reasonable person" determination. To a mom & pop shop the threat of a law suit by the brady bunch may be intimidating. The folks at Gander Mountain, though, are probably a tougher nut to crack.

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