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Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:00 PM

Debunking the myth of gun confiscation.

Nobody wants to take your guns -- they want you shot on sight.


2. I have often wondered about that, it should be assumed that they are potential terrorists

Maybe if a few of these jackasses get taken down maybe some of the others stop being such assholes.

Gun owners in general are cowards, one or two times should be enough to have them cowering under their bed.


9. Takes mere seconds to un-sling and shoot.

I say shoot them on sight , just to be safe. No sane person would carry a rifle around a grocery store. Only the insane and the criminally motivated. So, again, I say shoot them on sight, let their bodies rot in the streets as a message to other hell-bent gunners.

Nothing but good could come of this.


10. Nonsense.

That gun can be readied and fired in only seconds. Best to just shoot them.



So stop being so paranoid!

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Reply Debunking the myth of gun confiscation. (Original post)
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 OP
jollyreaper2112 Nov 2014 #1
kioa Nov 2014 #2
jollyreaper2112 Nov 2014 #5
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #9
Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #12
stone space Nov 2014 #30
kioa Nov 2014 #39
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #3
sarisataka Nov 2014 #4
jollyreaper2112 Nov 2014 #7
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #8
jollyreaper2112 Nov 2014 #11
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #17
Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #13
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #19
kudzu22 Nov 2014 #51
sarisataka Nov 2014 #10
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #14
jollyreaper2112 Nov 2014 #16
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #18
sarisataka Nov 2014 #20
beevul Nov 2014 #33
sarisataka Nov 2014 #34
Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #29
ileus Nov 2014 #28
stone space Nov 2014 #40
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #48
stone space Nov 2014 #52
beevul Nov 2014 #53
stone space Nov 2014 #54
HALO141 Nov 2014 #59
stone space Nov 2014 #55
oneshooter Nov 2014 #56
friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #58
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #57
sarisataka Nov 2014 #6
Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #15
NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #21
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #22
sarisataka Nov 2014 #23
NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #24
sarisataka Nov 2014 #25
beevul Nov 2014 #31
krispos42 Nov 2014 #26
NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #27
beevul Nov 2014 #32
stone space Nov 2014 #35
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #36
stone space Nov 2014 #38
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #47
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2014 #49
DonP Nov 2014 #37
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2014 #41
stone space Nov 2014 #42
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2014 #44
stone space Nov 2014 #45
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2014 #46
beevul Nov 2014 #50
Lizzie Poppet Nov 2014 #43
sarisataka Nov 2014 #60
Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #61
DonP Nov 2014 #62
Socal31 Nov 2014 #63

Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:09 PM

1. well now

Can you appreciate the concerns of people with regards to the open carry demonstrations? I think they're making a terroristic threat and it is incompatible with sane and responsible ownership.

A gun should only be used as a tool and a dangerous one at that. It should not be a toy or a prop or a surrogate for a tiny, tiny penis.

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:14 PM

2. Fantasizing about shooting an innocent person doesn't help me appreciate their concerns.

 

Nor does someone's insecure penis projection.

Weird.

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Response to kioa (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:19 PM

5. are you defending the open carry stunts?

You never know when you might get waylaid by ruffians on the way to the deli.

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:25 PM

9. People coming out of liquor stores on that day killed more people.

Best to arrest everyone who buys alcohol as a drunk driving, wife-beater.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:27 PM

12. that is not important

 

there is a picture of scary guns, must be afraid, very afraid.

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:03 PM

30. Good Lord! What assholes! (nt)

 

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:57 AM

39. I don't find it terribly concerning.

 

How many open carry stunts have you encountered?

Who was hurt by it?

Did they openly espouse murdering an innocent person as the statements in the OP did?

And, to keep things pertinent to your comment--did you see anyone's penis?

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:14 PM

3. I suppose another terrorist threat would be, "My rape whistle goes BANG!"

Best to shoot her -- just to be safe.

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:18 PM

4. So are you

in the shoot on sight camp?
Get terrorists before they get you?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:20 PM

7. no

I'm more in the "911, operator, there's some nut carrying an assault rifle in the donut shop. I have no idea what his intentions are. Please send an officer and tell him to watch his ass."

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:23 PM

8. In other words, you need someone to do your killing for you.

Those stupid stunts have already gotten one innocent man killed for doing nothing more than holding a BB gun inside a store.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:27 PM

11. that's not a stunt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westroads_Mall_shooting

Hawkins entered the south entrance of the Von Maur department store about 1:36 p.m. CST (19:36 UTC). After walking a short distance into the store, he paused for a second, then turned around and left. Returning six minutes later through the same entrance, he proceeded directly to the elevator at his immediate right, this time with a Century WASR-10 (a commercial copy of the AKM (7.62x39mm) semi-automatic rifle)[1][9] stolen from his stepfather's house, along with two 30-round magazines taped together,[10] concealed in a sweatshirt. He took the elevator to the top floor.[11]


I see someone carrying a gun into a public space, what am I supposed to think? Am I supposed to go up and ask if he's about to conduct a massacre, get shot if the answer is yes?

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:36 PM

17. And how many innocent people are you willing to kill to do -- nothing of value?

Andy Lopez?

John Crawford?

Tamir Rice?

You felin' like you got a better, safer America?

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:29 PM

13. and now it looks like that same thing happened to

 

the kid in Ohio.

Get scared and call 911 and maybe even exaggerate what is going on to the 911 operator.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:44 PM

19. And such things are being advocated here in this thread.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:29 PM

51. Ironic, or maybe tragic

that the same people who blame the cops in the Cleveland episode would applaud them doing the same thing to an adult.

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:26 PM

10. Have you heard of

John Crawford lll?
Let me summarize- shot on sight.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:30 PM

14. Apparently 2 wrongs make it right

1. Wrong hobby

2. Wrong skin color

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:31 PM

16. yeah

1. Not an open carry guy, just a man with a pellet gun in walmart.
2. Black

I've yet to hear of any open carry guys shot by the cops. Cops will shoot you for not even doing anything if you're black.

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:37 PM

18. "just a man with a pellet gun in walmart."

Yet, some imbecile called it in as a man with a gun because -- you know -- people like to make assumptions.

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:50 PM

20. A person called 911

"911, operator, there's some nut carrying an assault rifle in the Wal-Mart . I have no idea what his intentions are. Please send an officer and tell him to watch his ass."

Or something to that effect. Result- one man dead for holding a bb gun.

That "Cops will shoot you for not even doing anything if you're black." is another separate concern; you even note this happens regardless of whether or not a black man has a gun.

People here are calling for, and not for the first time, summary execution of people exercising a distasteful yet legal activity. Anyone who promotes such action, or says call the cops and let the chips fall has no business complaining when a man or child dies as a result.

I do not find it acceptable that it has happened to black people nor do I find it acceptable when it happens to a white person.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:03 PM

33. Oh its much worse than that.

 

No Charges in Ohio Police Killing of John Crawford as Wal-Mart Video Contradicts 911 Caller Account

An Ohio grand jury has declined to indict the white police officer who fatally shot John Crawford. A 22-year-old African American, Crawford was killed inside a Wal-Mart store last month after a caller phoned police to accuse him of brandishing a gun and pointing it at other customers. In fact, Crawford had picked up an unloaded BB air rifle on a shelf, an item that is sold in the store. Newly released surveillance footage shows major discrepancies between a 911 callerís account, and what really happened. The Justice Department now says it will launch a federal review to determine if Crawfordís civil rights were violated. We are joined by two guests: Rashad Robinson, executive director of Color of Change, a national organization that has campaigned for Wal-Mart to release the surveillance tapes, and James Hayes, founding member of the Ohio Student Association, which has been organizing protests over the shooting.

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/9/25/no_charges_in_ohio_police_killing

Strange, that anti-gun folks would openly advocate for just that, but there it is.

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Response to beevul (Reply #33)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:09 PM

34. I can't get my head around

the disconnect. A person calls 911, as they advocate; perhaps a little 'exaggeration' to make sure the police come out.
Then when the police shoot the person it is the cops fault for not knowing the gun wasn't real.

Implications of course is that if it were a real gin it would be a justified shooting, even if such carry is not illegal.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:51 PM

29. As per #1, maybe the side of "penis."

 



I take note of the name "jolly reaper."

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:36 PM

28. Exactly...guns carried in public are supposed to be personal safety equipment.

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Response to jollyreaper2112 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:03 AM

40. Exactly!

 

Can you appreciate the concerns of people with regards to the open carry demonstrations? I think they're making a terroristic threat and it is incompatible with sane and responsible ownership.


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Response to stone space (Reply #40)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:41 PM

48. The only people who feel threatened are those who were hoping to find easy victims. nt

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #48)

Thu Nov 27, 2014, 11:55 AM

52. That's a lie.

 

The only people who feel threatened are those who were hoping to find easy victims. nt


Maybe we just don't want to be victims of a massacre by some ammosexual asshole like this who are allowed to freely threaten people with their precious guns.





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Response to stone space (Reply #52)

Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:17 PM

53. How many people did they kill? N/T

 

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Response to beevul (Reply #53)

Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:31 PM

54. He later massacred 4 people, as I recall.

 

One was 15 months old.

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Response to stone space (Reply #54)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 11:40 AM

59. Link? n/t

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Response to beevul (Reply #53)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 05:00 AM

55. Do you defend this ammosexual's so-called "right"...

 

...to threaten the OCCUPY folks and their children?

There could have easily been a massacre that day.



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Response to stone space (Reply #55)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:39 AM

56. Why are you so insulting?

This conversation was going well until YOU started with the insults.

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #56)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 10:55 AM

58. Ammophobes *do* tend to act out...

 

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Response to stone space (Reply #55)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 09:33 AM

57. I defend my rights.

I have a whole host of rights. All of them are abused and misused by others throughout the course of human history -- but my rights remain intact.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:20 PM

6. I saw that in GD

So much for being against gun violence, gun deaths and police shooting innocent people.

It appears some are ok if it is shooting the right people.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:30 PM

15. yes

 

the hypocrisy is amazing with some.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:37 PM

21. My, what lovely people! "let their bodies rot in the street"

 

.

Just delightful!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:39 PM

22. All in the name of respect for life, public safety and human dignity.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 05:50 PM

23. "Nothing but good can come of this"

One may wonder, once open carriers are taken care of what further "good" might such a mind turn to?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #23)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 06:01 PM

24. And, how "progressive" of them to trust the police to do their bidding and killing!

 

Here is one of those instances my US History/Government teacher told us about when one side of the political spectrum goes so far around the bend as to meet up with the far end of the opposite side.

Yes, indeed.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 06:37 PM

25. A gem from LBN

One less shithead
About the woman who accidentally shot herself while waving her gun around and the bf rear ended a car avoiding the gun- at least that is his story

Apparently when it is a gun owner we don't even need to investigate.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #25)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:34 PM

31. What a strange thing to say about a Mike brown supporter.

 

What a strange thing to say about a Mike brown supporter.

"One less shithead", I mean.

That, is quite an effective window into the mindset of those on the other side of the gun issue.

It seems guns trump everything, in the minds of some.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:54 PM

26. Like that kid shot in Cleveland a couple of days ago.

Or that guy in the department store who picked up a toy rifle.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:13 PM

27. Absolutely disgusting, but it doesn't surprise me.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:41 PM

32. Well, they do want to take your guns though, Shannon sez so.

 





So, looking at a cross section, some want to take your guns, others want you shot..

I wonder what other surprises they have in store...

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 07:21 AM

35. Repeal the 2nd Amendment. (nt)

 

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Response to stone space (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:42 AM

36. Why? So a bunch of homicidal nutters disguised as gun contral advocates can

impose their controller impulses on a helpless population?

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #36)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:50 AM

38. Do you feel helpless without your guns? (nt)

 


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Response to stone space (Reply #38)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:35 PM

47. Do you feel helpless not being able to dictate other people's lives?

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #47)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:44 PM

49. imho...

...he's just flaming for fun.

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Response to stone space (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:46 AM

37. Get your petitions started today. If not, why not?

 

Or are you just another typical gun control keyboard commando, that never actually does anything to back up your big, morally superior ideas?

There's a system in place to modify the constitution, to add or eliminate amendments. Get a petition drive started today or explain to the peanut gallery here why you can't be bothered so we might take you seriously.

Much easier to whine online than actually do anything about it, isn't it?

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Response to stone space (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:11 AM

41. You would need to...

...repeal the 9th as well.

Here's a good place to start: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/create

Let us know how it goes.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #41)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:13 AM

42. Not at all.

 

You would need to repeal the 9th as well.


But if you don't like the 9th Amendment, by all means feel free to focus on that one.

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Response to stone space (Reply #42)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:09 PM

44. why would I have a problem...

...with any rights? You're the one not liking rights.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #44)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:11 PM

45. Guns don't have rights. (nt)

 

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Response to stone space (Reply #45)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:16 PM

46. that's funny

Not a very good straw man but funny.

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Response to stone space (Reply #45)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:12 PM

50. Nope, but people have a right to own them.

 

And people like you are not going to change that.

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Response to stone space (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:38 PM

43. Even if you pulled that off...

 

Even if the 2nd Amendment were to be repealed, I'd still be armed, regardless. And I'm far from alone...

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 03:04 PM

60. 4 days, 1200+ views

59 replies...

and not yet one categorical rejection of the suggestion to summarily execute gun owners from the gun control side.

I had hoped previous suggestions over the last year to use drones on gun owners and carriers should be dealt with "extreme prejudice" were simply hyperbole.

Those suggestions were never rejected either.

What should be the take away from this besides the obvious? Perhaps those of us who own guns should live in fear.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #60)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:50 AM

61. 400 people are killed annually by long guns. Of that 400 semi-auto long guns are a sub-set and

mass shooting with semi-auto longs is a sub-sub-set. How many things in this world kill less than-less than 400 people annually?

Yet, they tell us they have a moral duty to wage full scale civil to take away all guns to "save lives." And when they aren't haranguing those who are defending the basic civil right of self defense they are back in GD howling about law enforcement becoming increasingly militarized and deadly, especially against unarmed civilians. The depth of their rank hypocrisy would be comical if the cost were not so tragic.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #61)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 10:34 AM

62. Speaking of GD Howling ...

 

There were several posts in GD over the past few weeks on how many people in and around Ferguson were buying guns.

The threads then devolved into the typical redneck baiting we usually see, including the requisite posting of the "family album" shots of Dad and fat old uncle Jed standing in the woods in camo etc.

The one consistent part of all those hand wringing threads was the tacit assumption that the guns were all being sold to only white residents.

Not one person even considered the fact that there were more than a few African American families and store owners that might have good reason to want their own gun.

Without access to the 4473's they all filled out, we'll never know, but it is telling that the assumption for some narrow minded gun grabber types immediately jumps to the redneck stereotype.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 03:31 AM

63. It is already happening here in CA.

Other places as well.

It's not paranoia if it is real.

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