There is no such thing as being, "anti gun."

[Nuclear Unicorn]

All law is predicated on the use of force, including deadly force.

Those who propose gun control laws are not advocating for the absence or guns but merely exclusivity in the use of guns. Advocating for laws is to advocate for the use of force.

But the use of force against whom? Women? The elderly? Shop owners? Family members? Hobbyists?

And this is supposedly done in the name of protecting the innocent.

Gun control is a wildly self-contradicting creed.

[Fred Sanders]

1. "All law is predicated on the use of force"??? Going to need a link for that one.

[pkdu]

2. You cant link to word-salad Fred , not possible. nt

[Fred Sanders]

6. I am curious how one tosses word salad, and what type of dressing it needs.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

3. Go ahead and break a law and see what happens.

[Fred Sanders]

5. I just did! I stole a big juicy steak from Kroegers...no use of force was necessary or mentioned

by the judge.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

7. You don't see arrest and confinement or the fact they are enforced by people with guns as

being a predication of force?

So, if gun control laws are ignored it is your assertion there will be no reliance upon force to affect compliance?

Perhaps then I will no longer argue against your proposals.

[NYC_SKP]

4. They're unwittingly advocating for exclusive ownership by the rich and powerful.

It's very sad.

[MicaelS]

8. If every gun in existence was destroyed..

And no new ones were made, humans would revert to killing each other with edged weapons. Then we would see the same rhetoric about the "evil" knives and swords, knife companies, knife owners, etc.

Some just can't stand the idea of ordinary people being armed, since they "might take the law in their own hands" doncha know.

[ileus]

9. But those would be nice peaceful attacks...

except for the attack the victim would be much much safer.



remember with the "guns kill people" crowd, it's the object that makes folks go sour.

[Veganstein]

12. That's actually happening in some parts of the world.

There are ad campaigns in England that discuss knives in the same way that gun control campaigns here discuss guns.

[ileus]

10. proof of your point....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6050667



Two firearm regressives that want guns used to strip away rights.


Wouldn't want to pollute society when a can of beans will do nicely.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

13. Yeah. That one guy kinda avoids me these days. He managed to put his foot in his mouth while

stepping on his crank. This sub-thread didn't go well for him --

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025724398#post37

[Shamash]

11. I think you have made two good points

Any argument that only one person chooses to repeatedly make a fool of himself against is a) probably a good argument, and b) evidence that said person is probably at the bottom of the intelligence and rationality scales regarding opponents of that argument.

That is, every village has an idiot...