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Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:13 PM

Emily Got Her Gun, but her story is a lie.

Things are not looking good for NRA hero Emily Miller, Chief Investigative Reporter for WTTG Fox5 in Washington, DC. Yesterday Washington Post's media blogger, Erik Wemple, posted more information about Miller's bizarre "home invasion" story, which she turned into a newspaper series, "Emily Gets Her Gun," and book, "Emily Gets Her Gun...But Obama Wants to Take Yours" (the title alone should raise some flags), plus speaking engagements at pro-gun rallies (a clear violation of professional journalistic ethics).

Wemple obtained new, supplemental, police reports which casts even more doubt on the veracity of Emily Miller's sensationalist tale about the "15 scruffy young men standing around two pickup trucks", and the "the blood-shot-eyed guy" who "darted out, blocking the shot" when she claims she tried to take their picture. This is information that would certainly be helpful to the police (15 scruffy men, two pickup trucks, one man with bloodshot eyes) and would surely have been included in her report to the police, right?

No. In fact the report she gave to the police right after it happened tells a completely different story: it was not a "home invasion," the alleged burglar was not still in the house when she went in, there was only one man, driving a silver pickup truck, who said he was there to deliver firewood, and who gave her his business card. No other men and no other pickup truck was mentioned.

I'll leave it to you to read Wemple's column pointing out discrepancies and inconsistencies (linked above). There are still some unanswered questions (if the police had the landscaper's business card, what did they find out from him? Was it bogus? Why didn't Miller follow up on the information the police developed about her credit card usage?), so I hope he continues to investigate further.

I point all this out because this is typical, in my experience, of NRA sensationalist propaganda, designed to portray America as so dangerous and frightening that one must arm oneself or face death at the hands of fearsome thugs. Compare the police report to the NRA video. Compare the police report to the narrative Miller has since turned into a newspaper series, highly regarded by RKBA posters here. And yet, in my many years of dealing with pro-gunners, they often accuse pro-controllers of consistently lying, but their side is comprised of honest, law-abiding, Americans who would never lie. When it comes to politics, both sides of any contentious issue are quite capable of lying, and every fact and story should be approached with skepticism.

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Reply Emily Got Her Gun, but her story is a lie. (Original post)
Neon Gods Mar 2015 OP
Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #1
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #2
sarisataka Mar 2015 #4
Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #6
hack89 Mar 2015 #9
NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #24
DonP Mar 2015 #3
Neon Gods Mar 2015 #15
NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #25
Neon Gods Mar 2015 #12
Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #13
Neon Gods Mar 2015 #17
Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #19
hack89 Mar 2015 #16
NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #26
jimmy the one Mar 2015 #5
friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #7
Downwinder Mar 2015 #8
friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #10
Downwinder Mar 2015 #11
friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #14
Downwinder Mar 2015 #22
friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #23
Neon Gods Mar 2015 #18
friendly_iconoclast Mar 2015 #21
ileus Mar 2015 #20
Eleanors38 Mar 2015 #27

Response to Neon Gods (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:17 PM

1. Let's assume it's 100% fabrication from wholecloth.

Self-defense is still a human and civil right.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:23 PM

2. That's what Zimmerman told us, yup.

And Officer Wilson.

Lots of dead folks killed by people who were just performing 'self-defense'.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:29 PM

4. So self defense

is NOT a human and civil right?

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:34 PM

6. And Ted Kennedy was anti-Prohibition. What's your point?

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 03:22 PM

9. So there is no such thing as legitimate self defense?

anyone that claims it is merely a murderer?

The Supreme Court says self defense is a right.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:32 AM

24. Your reply really has nothing to do with that post.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:26 PM

3. Seems terribly important to discredit this woman if they can

 

This is what the 3rd or 4th thread and the 2nd by the OP? "Methinks thou doth protest too much" applies here.

They must be scared shitless of her having a gun. She must be a real danger to something or other.

After all, there are all those other stories of women using guns to shoot someplace up, right?

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Response to DonP (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:22 PM

15. This is a second post because further information has surfaced

There will be a third post if it is warranted, and like I wrote, there are still some questions I'd like answered.

I live just outside the city where she resides...with her gun. She's not really a model citizen is she? (lying about an incident in order to further her cause) so yeah, not cheering that she gets to carry a gun, but then I would prefer to live in a city where few strangers around me are armed in public.

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Response to Neon Gods (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:33 AM

25. We get it. You don't like guns.

I'm assuming you hate gun owners too.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:11 PM

12. Self defense is a human right

No where is it written that self defense can only be accomplished with a firearm.

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Response to Neon Gods (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:15 PM

13. If you were less than 5' 6" in height and less than 130 lbs.

what would you want to use against someone greater than 5' 10" and 180 lbs.?

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:38 PM

17. How do shorter people in other countries defend themselves without firearms?

Why do some Americans always insist life requires a gun? I've known hundreds of people in my many years on this earth and none of them have ever been beaten or shot by bullies, thugs, or criminals. No one I know owns or carries a firearm, which means none of us has to keep track of our weapon when we're out, when we fly, or when we're around kids. No one steals our gun. No one will be shot by accident in my home.

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Response to Neon Gods (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:09 PM

19. "How do shorter people in other countries defend themselves without firearms?"

Maybe they don't. Maybe their world is ruled by the strongest leaving women, the elderly and the infirm at the mercy of those who have no mercy.

You're implying that people only want guns, not because they are the most practical means for defense but because firearms owners are somehow deficient without any consideration for pragmatism and experience.

Why do you assume the worst of the people?

I've known hundreds of people in my many years on this earth and none of them have ever been beaten or shot by bullies, thugs, or criminals. No one I know owns or carries a firearm, which means none of us has to keep track of our weapon when we're out, when we fly, or when we're around kids. No one steals our gun. No one will be shot by accident in my home.

Cool story, bro.

I live in a rural area. Everyone owns a gun. Generally several, i.e. pistols of assorted calibers (heavier and lighter for the gentlemen and ladies respectively), at least 1 rifle (semi or otherwise) and a shotgun. Most are kept in the open. Many carry on their hip. We have no crime. We have no "wild west" shoot-outs. We have had a mountain lion in the area in years past but I believe it is unarmed and has no outstanding warrants.

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Response to Neon Gods (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:29 PM

16. But it is one of the most effective methods

especially when there is a large size and strength disparity. A great equalizer.

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Response to Neon Gods (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:37 AM

26. As I've said before...

the anti-gun crowd might take time to tsk-tsk if someone in my family was killed by a knife-wielding maniac, but if I were to use a firearm to stop said maniac, they would roundly condemn my actions and demand that I be prosecuted.

Your posts tend to validate my point.

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Response to Neon Gods (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:33 PM

5. polygraph emily

neon: There are still some unanswered questions (if the police had the landscaper's business card, what did they find out from him? Was it bogus? Why didn't Miller follow up on the information the police developed about her credit card usage?), so I hope he continues to investigate further.

link: Susanna Quinn says that Miller has “never been anything but truthful”

Well then, if anything but truthful, she should take a lie detector test. See how she does.

donP: This is what the 3rd or 4th thread and the 2nd by the OP? "Methinks thou doth protest too much" applies here.

... you referring to Emily too?

donP: After all, there are all those other stories of women using guns to shoot someplace up, right?

Moreso accidents imo; like the sad recent case of a ccw holder 'bra-carrying', shot herself in the eye, died, while adjusting her 'holster'. And I am not laughing, this is a truly disheartening & sad event, sincerely, she was perhaps duped by the gun propaganda & done did herself in.

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Response to jimmy the one (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:41 PM

7. Why?

 

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Response to Neon Gods (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 03:16 PM

8. Chief Investigative Reporter for WTTG Fox5

Says it all.

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Response to Downwinder (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 03:31 PM

10. Even cranks and employees of dodgy right-wing media outlets have rights

 

*Real* progressives realize there's no 'niceness clause' in the Constiution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernesto_Miranda

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/supremecourt/rights/landmark_miranda.html

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 03:33 PM

11. O'Really?

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Response to Downwinder (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:20 PM

14. Yep, even *that* serial fabricator/blowhard

 

Of course, he doesn't have the right to remain employed by Fox if Roger Ailes and the Murdochs
decide he's costing them money...

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:45 PM

22. With friends like that, who needs enemies?

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Response to Downwinder (Reply #22)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 06:19 PM

23. Even the Freepers have turned on him (snerk)...

 

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:46 PM

18. Are you saying Miller can't be fired?

For lying and ethics violations? Maybe you're referring to something else. If so, disregard.

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Response to Neon Gods (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:25 PM

21. I was referring to her handgun license, not her job.

 

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Response to Neon Gods (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:17 PM

20. I don't know about these folks, but my life is worth protecting at all times...everywhere.

and the last thing I want is someone telling me it's okay to be a victim....that it's for the chillin's or whatever bloomy wants us to believe.


F that noise.



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Response to Neon Gods (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 06:40 PM

27. we all cut cheese under the sheets. nt

 

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