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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 07:48 AM Jun 2015

In Japan, even the gun enthusiasts are in favor of gun control

ISEHARA, Japan — Chiaki Sakurai heard a story from his shooting buddies about an American school in Japan.

“I heard that there’s an American school here that has a sign out front saying ‘No guns,’?” he said incredulously one day this week during a break from target practice at a shooting range. “The school has a sign, even though it’s in Japan!”

It’s not the prohibition that shocked Sakurai, a 56-year-old who has been shooting competitively for three decades, but the idea that such a sign would ever be needed. Why would anyone be carrying a gun at all, let alone into a school?

The story about the sign might be an urban legend, but Sakurai’s astonishment was totally unfeigned.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in-japan-even-the-gun-enthusiasts-are-in-favor-of-gun-control/2015/06/27/283cfaea-19a6-11e5-bed8-1093ee58dad0_story.html
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In Japan, even the gun enthusiasts are in favor of gun control (Original Post) SecularMotion Jun 2015 OP
You control folks... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #1
Well, golly, if some guy in Japan thnks so what're we waiting for? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #2
Hey Secular Shamash Jun 2015 #3
In Japan...... clffrdjk Jun 2015 #4
That's nice. nt hack89 Jun 2015 #5
Buffalo SPAMBURGER™ Hamburgers sarisataka Jun 2015 #6
Indeed the entire world is shaking their heads at American reverence of guns, as they once did about Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #7
I wish Americans could gain half the tolerance you show groups like ISIS. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #8
...or crypto-fascists like Putin friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #10
"What's the suicide rate in gun-free Japan?" friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #9
similar in britain jimmy the one Jun 2015 #11
I'm for gun control...all firearms should be carefully used. ileus Jun 2015 #12
Yet every single one would be blocked from bansalot. beevul Jun 2015 #13
Now I'm confused? DonP Jun 2015 #14
The WaPo is recruiting in Japan, now? Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #15

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
1. You control folks...
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 08:08 AM
Jun 2015

...need to first accept that you're thinking inside the box. Denying that there is a box doesn't help with that.

"The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside." - Allan Bloom

 

Shamash

(597 posts)
3. Hey Secular
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 08:36 AM
Jun 2015

Since it is almost reflexive for gun control advocates to pad their numbers by including suicides and implying that we could save all those lives if we could just ban those nasty guns...

What's the suicide rate in gun-free Japan? Because last I heard it was higher than the US suicide rate and murder rate combined.

I bring this up because I wanted to know if international, cross-cultural comparisons are valid when anyone makes them, or if it is only when it serves your purposes to use them? And as long as we're on the topic of Japan, perhaps you could extoll the virtues of a culture so controlled that you need permission from the prefectural public safety commission to buy a kitchen knife?

sarisataka

(18,553 posts)
6. Buffalo SPAMBURGER™ Hamburgers
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jun 2015
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4 lettuce leaves
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The article goes on to say Sakurai-san owns eight different guns. Is he still a gun humper?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. Indeed the entire world is shaking their heads at American reverence of guns, as they once did about
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jun 2015

the Dixie Swasrika being revered.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
9. "What's the suicide rate in gun-free Japan?"
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jun 2015

To further quote from Shamash's post upthread

I bring this up because I wanted to know if international, cross-cultural comparisons are valid when anyone makes them, or if it is only when it serves your purposes to use them?

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
11. similar in britain
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 04:32 PM
Jun 2015
It’s not the prohibition that shocked Sakurai, a 56-year-old who has been shooting competitively for three decades, but the idea that such a sign would ever be needed. Why would anyone be carrying a gun at all, let alone into a school

Similar in Britain, where most all 'rightwing' tories would be appalled at allowing what are termed assault rifles in America. They are tories, but still they are socialist. Same with most all of them tories on handguns, they support the handgun ban across the country, except for the most far rightwing of them tories, unless I heard wrong.
 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
14. Now I'm confused?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:03 PM
Jun 2015

In the past few days the controller types have suggested we need to be more like:

Australia (watch that "comedy" guy another 12 times and it gets funnier every single time)

Japan (see, even the one gun owner we found in Japan likes control)

Britain (even the conservatives don't want handguns or scary black rifles and we're not too happy about that Wustof carving knife either)

So hard to decide which to ignore as utterly irrelevant first.

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