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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:27 AM Jul 2015

Experts study ‘gun culture’ and its impact on gun violence

Almost a third of American adults own a gun, but the rate varies widely by state and tops out at almost 62 percent of people in Alaska, new survey data show.

Gun ownership was closely tied to “social gun culture,” wherein family and friends also own guns and think less of non-gun owners, researchers found.

About 29 percent of people nationwide reported owning a gun. Only five percent of people in Delaware and six percent in Rhode Island owned a gun, compared to almost 62 percent in Alaska. More than half of people reported owning a gun in West Virginia, Arkansas, Montana, Wyoming and Idaho. Regionally, gun ownership was least common in the Northeast and most common in the South and West.

About 5 percent of people said they used their gun for hunting, and 10 percent reported attending gun safety classes.

http://www.wctrib.com/news/nation/3777318-experts-study-gun-culture-and-its-impact-gun-violence


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Experts study ‘gun culture’ and its impact on gun violence (Original Post) SecularMotion Jul 2015 OP
"experts" and their "gun culture" ileus Jul 2015 #1
Fox Noise recently shut down one of their echo sites due to rhetoric that became so inflammatory nightscanner59 Jul 2015 #2
"The best many of us can do is attempt to change hearts and minds one at a time." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #3
I agree with #3... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #14
Ah, yes, the alienation of The Others. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #4
Reuben SPAM® Roll-Ups sarisataka Jul 2015 #5
"wasn't it said the 5000 people Kleck surveyed was too small of a sample" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #6
So not even a true sarisataka Jul 2015 #7
81% of all statistics are manipulated Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #8
400% correct Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #9
I'll be devoting 110% effort... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #11
What a bunch of...something Shamash Jul 2015 #10
I infer that your reply implies the OP's copied message... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #12
" Experts"..."Top men" I'll bet. beevul Jul 2015 #13

ileus

(15,396 posts)
1. "experts" and their "gun culture"
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:18 AM
Jul 2015

From reading this it's pretty easy to tell the "experts" here are idiots.


"They may be buying more than one, now that's scary and mean. Don't they know guns kill?"



Gun Culture want a load of bunk...

nightscanner59

(802 posts)
2. Fox Noise recently shut down one of their echo sites due to rhetoric that became so inflammatory
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:26 AM
Jul 2015

that it scared even the Fox people into shutting it down. That and the more reasonable opinions were all coming from their enemies. To wit: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1022870
The best many of us can do is attempt to change hearts and minds one at a time. Not that such will get anywhere with the entrenched, but children are listening.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. "The best many of us can do is attempt to change hearts and minds one at a time."
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:01 AM
Jul 2015

You've got a tough row to how considering the usual Controller tactics revolve around sex-based name-calling, claiming gun owners are murderers in waiting and responsible for the death of children, claiming that those who are able to speak to technical facts is a reason to be dismissed out of hand and a general refusal to acknowledge the individual right to self-defense.

The children who are watching would probably consider such behavior as beyond childish.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
14. I agree with #3...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jul 2015

A quick perusal of gun-related posts over the last couple of months alone should be sufficient to illustrate how many DU controllers think.

Going back thirty or forty years, you had to search obscure journals for vitriol aimed at non-gun-owners, but plenty could be found in the editorials, in-depth commentary, guest columns directed at gun-owners. This wasn't the bathroom scrawl of some anonymous jerk with a Marksalot, but academics, government leaders, culture critics, noted columnists, etc.

The penis talk, bucked-toothed stereotypes, and yee-hahs in the woods was promulgated early and often.

Is it any wonder?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
4. Ah, yes, the alienation of The Others.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:08 AM
Jul 2015

It all sounds so familiar --

"Those people, they ain't like us. They're dangerous and not to be trusted. Why, you never know when one might snap. They'll come after our women and children. They're what's wrong with this country. They ruin it for decent folk. Don't worry about what the law says, they're just a minority. We need to do something before they hurt us. Things will be so much better once they're no longer living amongst us. You'll see. Just trust me."


sarisataka

(18,539 posts)
5. Reuben SPAM® Roll-Ups
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jul 2015
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Oh, BTW-
The researchers used data from a 2013 online survey of 4,000 people over age 18 from all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
wasn't it said the 5000 people Kleck surveyed was too small of a sample to draw accurate conclusions?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
6. "wasn't it said the 5000 people Kleck surveyed was too small of a sample"
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:34 AM
Jul 2015

Also note the survey from the OP was an online survey.

sarisataka

(18,539 posts)
7. So not even a true
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jul 2015

random sample.

But I'm sure this gives us TRUE, SET IN STONE, UNQUESTIONABLE DATA!!!!!!

Just like that 40% of guns are sold unchecked at gun shows

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
11. I'll be devoting 110% effort...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:40 PM
Jul 2015

...to my 5 minute break that I'll be taking for the next 10 minutes.
With that in mind, I'll return to work in about a half hour.

- Courtesy of Irish uncle and first on the job supervisor.

 

Shamash

(597 posts)
10. What a bunch of...something
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:40 PM
Jul 2015

Just from the story I can spot unsupportable assumptions, errors and ignorance. Or to do the mental translation that happens between the eyeballs and brain for some DUers, "perfectly acceptable guidelines to base policy on". But I do like this, since it seems to apply in reverse:

Non-gun ownership was closely tied to “social non-gun culture,” wherein family and friends also do not own guns and think less of gun owners, researchers found.

I imagine anyone here at DU could have told them that without surveying 5,000 random Americans. Speaking of which, if that is truly a representative sample of Americans, that would mean they surveyed 12 whole Alaskans and 17 Rhode Islanders in order to get their results for these states.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
12. I infer that your reply implies the OP's copied message...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:51 PM
Jul 2015

...is both doubtful in validity and impaired in its systematic design. I further infer that these issues preclude said post's titled subject from being taken seriously as the term "expert" would remain in serious doubt.

Or, as I often would like to say...

...another bunch of conclusions based on misinformation developed by a team expertly skilled in the science of assertion and conclusion jumping.

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