Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumThe NRA, and the tactics of fear
And if that was not enough, the letter went on to explain in bold type with underlining and capitalization that Theyve vowed to fight on and never surrender Not until they BAN tens of millions of commonly owned firearms SHUT DOWN gun shops and shows Impose crippling TAXES and FEES on firearms and ammunition REGISTER gun owners and DESTROY your right to defend yourself, your home and your loved ones.
The tone of the letter was disturbing with its repeated references to fight, defend, destroy, war, muscle, defeat. All the bluster and loud noises are attempts to distract from the efforts on the part of many organizations to have common sense gun safety measures passed that leaves the Second Amendment in place but enhances safety in our homes and community. I continue to introduce a bill to close the gun show loophole as a way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and persons who are violent.
The purpose of the signed petition is explained later in the letter again in bold type: When NRA is fighting gun control legislation and regulations, we can point to these signed petitions and tell your Virginia politicians that there are thousands of gun owners standing ready to elect the Second Amendments allies and defeat her enemies! Unfortunately this fear tactic works with too many elected officials.
http://augustafreepress.com/the-nra-and-the-tactics-of-fear/
blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)Was there anything you wanted to actually discuss?
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)Not that it means anything.
blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)Truly the stuff of legend.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)merely a symbol that represents this delusional but proudly owned paranoia, openly used and displayed to ward off the fear and evil they see everywhere....kind of like the folks who use garlic to ward off vampires.
Kind of silly to wear garlic.....if there are no monsters. Kind of silly to own guns when there is nothing to fear.
Sad bunch, essentially a cult.
blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)are willing to blame anything other than the bad actor for criminal misuse of firearms; the cognitive dissonance is breathtaking.
beevul
(12,194 posts)Well, asking them to blame bad actors is...um...it...er...just this:
The New York City Mayors Office of Media has confirmed these facts in its response to a Freedom of Information Law (FOIL) request submitted in March.
States United To Prevent Gun Violence opens a gun store in NYC as a hidden camera social experiment to debunk safety myths, the CeaseFire USA project claimed in its description of the video. The social experiment, like the gun shop itself, was pre-arranged, permits approved by the city indicate.
Actors are interviewed on camera in a fake gun store, the permits scene descriptions reveal.
http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/group-actors-nyc-gun-store-facade/
Clearly they find actors of all sorts useful.
They certainly do. That's because "the tide is turning!".
Shamash
(597 posts) Unswerving devotion? Check.
Beliefs cannot be explained rationally? Check.
Exclusive rather than inclusive? Check.
Can only survive where its members are isolated from outside knowledge? Check.
Waiting for a prophesied paradise to drop into their laps? Check.
Oh wait, I was thinking of a group that wasn't "gun lovers". Never mind.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Consider the following facts --
* approximately 70% of violent gun uses come from persons with established criminal records or previous criminal encounters with law enforcement
* gun control doesn't focus on people of malicious intent it focuses on the guns owned by the overwhelming majority of people who have peaceable intentions
I suggest it is the Controllers who have fixated on the symbolism of the gun and hide behind the totem of the "gun free zone" sign
Rapists don't exist? Stalkers don't exist? Home invaders don't exist? Robbers don't exist?
But we have to disarm those protecting themselves from rapists and stalkers because they are the monsters responsible for all gun crime.
And if the world is so safe why the mania to ban guns?
This is the level of self-mocking parody in which the Controllers have lowered themselves.
Chant for us again about how banning guns will bring us peace and security.
beevul
(12,194 posts)Not only that, they DEMAND that everyone worship at their altar, and woe be to they that voice the slightest utterance of disagreement, no matter the reason.
Fact is, they're the real extremists here, by any objective measure.
beevul
(12,194 posts)But its just fine as long as its YOU who are spreading the fear, amirite fred?
Think really hard:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172170724#post8
Remember who said that, buddy?
ileus
(15,396 posts)Seems like this writer is some years behind the banner propaganda, how am I supposed to take them seriously???
clffrdjk
(905 posts)And yet her refers to it as a fear tactic.
Shamash
(597 posts)And thank goodness a search of Everytown.org comes up completely blank when you search for gun control rhetoric using "fight", "defend" or "defeat". And using all caps is something Moms Demand Action would never do:
And I sure am glad courageous non-gun owners are not portrayed as being as fearful as NRA members are:
Or that Shannon Watts (Moms Demand Action) doesn't use fearmongering:
No fearmongering at all from Moms Demand Action, no sirree!
So, was your point that the gun control advocates are bad because they use fearmongering, all caps and emotionally charged buzzwords, or that the NRA is good because they do the same thing? Because a simple cut & paste doesn't really tell us which of those two you meant.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Given time to explore, we can expose the half-truths, contradictions, and outright mendacity
that gun control culture warriors are wont to use.
In contrast, reading through this thread in GD...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026929143
...made me think: "You know, if Sarah Palin somehow got the idea into her tiny little mind
to oppose guns, she'd sound just like a few of these posters"
So, to my fellow RKBA advocates, I say:
Embrace "dump and run" OPs as the opportunity they are. Fisk them thoroughly
Make the other guys words work for *us*, not them
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)It also tends to prove our point when they run away and fail to argue the point of view they are trying to push on us.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)benEzra
(12,148 posts)"Not until they BAN tens of millions of commonly owned firearms SHUT DOWN gun shops and shows Impose crippling TAXES and FEES on firearms and ammunition REGISTER gun owners and DESTROY your right to defend yourself, your home and your loved ones"
Since you consider this abject fearmongering, then I take it you no longer want to ban "assault weapons" then?
You oppose the Brady Campaign's efforts to shut down gun shows and put ammunition vendors out of business?
You no longer wish to impose insurance requirements for ownership, or exorbitant fees for training or carry licensure?
You no longer wish to mandate "smart guns"?
You no longer support Bloomberg's efforts to impose point-of-sale registration for all gun sales?
You oppose requiring gun owners to store guns unloaded?
I'm glad to hear it.
Of course, if you actually do still support the above bans and restrictions, then the quoted statement would actually be true, wouldn't it?
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)by the controllers, or at one time were the law.
What amazes me is that with foreknowledge of these "tactics of fear," there are some controller banners who nevertheless gladly step onto the tracks in front of that honking locomotive.