Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forum94 US school and university shootings since Sandy Hook
During the last three months alone, there were 16 school shootings, including one week where there were five incidents across five separate states, according to Everytown, a lobby group against gun violence.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11297006/Revealed-the-94-US-school-and-university-shootings-since-Sandy-Hook.html
Shamash
(597 posts)And I hear that a lot of guns in New York come from Virginia and ones in Illinois from Mississippi. I guess with easily available guns in those places, their violent crime rates must be through the roof compared to New York and Illinois.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Notice the number of "school shootings" bears no resemblance to violent crime rates, i.e. NY, GA, AK, LA, etc.
It should also be pointed out that plenty of states that declare schools GFZs also have shootings. What's up with that?
ileus
(15,396 posts)I find it odd that those that fight hardest against increased security are the same ones that whine about guns.
It's like they would rather have more school shootings to get their way, than actually solve some problems with increased security.
beevul
(12,194 posts)Why is this even allowed on DU?
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)No listing of the crime, no way to confirm that it really happened.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Used to be four or more deaths (not including the perpetrator) in one setting at one time. I think it got lowered to three, then rolled into a new category, "active shooter."
From what I can gather there has been only one mass killing since Sandy Hook which occurred on school grounds. The California college killings involved three by gun, 3 by "knife/sharp-edged instrument" the latter method roundly ignored by DU controllers.
In Austin a mass murder was committed by some asshole driving a Honda up a closed street during the 2014 SXSW, and he was charged with four counts of murder. Ignored.
Of course, controllers all but ignore how school safety can be improved. I wonder why.
beevul
(12,194 posts)Like when the brady bunch counts adults as "children. And when the gun control lobby rolled gun suicides and gun homicides and gun accidents into the category of 'gun violence'.
A. It magnifies the absolute numbers.
B. It leads to easier framing that 'its guns fault'. Theirs is a "our size fits all" solution, in search of a problem.
C. It pseudo-absolves them from having to distinguish between suicides and homicides and accidents.
D. Because of C, they feel entitled to castigate anyone that DOES recognize suicides, homicides, and accidents as the different problems that they are.
See B. They want to go after the guns.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)OK, it was with a crossbow. Kid went to school and shot his professor father with a crossbow after stabbing Dad's "side action" to death.