“Don’t paint us as hillbillies”: Man guarding “Muslim-free” gun range bends over, drops weapon...

[TexasProgresive]

In another thread I was told that weapon drop shootings don't happen. This isn't a new incident going back to August 2015 but what the Hell it's the 1st day of 2016 and all the news people are recounting the stories of the year, so here goes.

This snip has a ring of irony in it to me:

http://www.salon.com/2015/08/19/dont_paint_us_as_hillbillies_man_guarding_muslim_free_gun_range_bends_over_drops_weapon_accidentally_shoots_self/
One of “the Clampetts” — a reference to the iconic family from “The Beverly Hillbillies” — told Muskogree Now’s Leif Wright that he would only identify himself as “Eagle One,” and that the reporter shouldn’t follow in the sheriff’s footsteps and “paint us as ignorant hillbillies.”

“We just believe in people’s constitutional rights, and we’re here to make sure they get them,” he said adding that he had nothing against Muslims. “I am a combat veteran, I will fight to the death for someone’s right to practice whatever religion they want to. I’m not here because of that. I’m here because when people start resorting to violence, we can’t allow that.”

Snip:

Nicole Mayhorn, one of the store’s owners, posted on Facebook that the person who accidentally shot himself “was a close personal friend of ours,” a “very sweet and dear friend who we consider to be like family,” and that he “came over today to help fix a door in my office and as he bent over his weapon fell from a malfunctioning chest holster and went off when it hit the floor.”

[ileus]

1. Always carry in a proper holster...even those old relics can't fire if not dropped.

Safety first....dropping your firearm never.

[TexasProgresive]

3. What are the stats of responsible and safety minded gun owners v.

Irresponsible and careless gun owners?

That is a major problem that I see is that many gun owners and users do not take the fact that a guns, cars and whatever are not toys but are inherently dangerous and should be used with care. As the story posted said the "guards" were handling their weapons in a careless manner i.e. fingers on the trigger. I don't doubt they were aware that they were pointing the muzzle at themselves and others.

I guess they didn't have 10 rules of gun safety drilled into them at an early age, unlike myself. Rule 1 all guns are loaded. Last rule - see rule 1, regardless of what you "know" all guns are loaded.

[DBoon]

4. The more people buy guns the more irresponsible gun owners there are

People with no prior firearms experience who buy out of fear I believe are more likely to misuse their weapon than the historic base of rural hunters, who grew up handling firearms.

[Human101948]

2. Must have been one of those radicalized ISIS weapons that infiltrated the gun shop...

Be very araid! They could be hiding in your gun safe or your in bedside table!

[ManiacJoe]

5. How old was this gun that fired "when it hit the floor"?

Modern guns don't do that.

The most common cause of a gun firing when dropped is the user trying to catch it and mistakenly pulling the trigger when his fingers end up in the trigger guard. The best thing to do for a dropped gun is to let it hit the floor then simply pick it up.

[TexasProgresive]

6. Considering that the people who write the reports are generally ignorant of guns

It is difficult to find the make and model of the gun in any shooting incident. It could be a derringer and they will show a file picture of a 9 mm Glock or a Colt Model 1911 45. They use the word automatic instead of semi-automatic and so forth.

http://www.vnews.com/news/6095717-95/family-sues-gun-shop-gun-makers
There was a case of a drop fire death in Springfield, VT in 2010 that the family brought suit. After numerous searches I found one article with the name of the pistol. I will give credit to some of the other articles since the did report it was a revolver. It was a replica piece, an Uberti Regulator SAA Revolver.

The revolver Davis purchased had one safety mechanism, a spring-loaded hammer block that was supposed to block the firing pin from striking the back of the cartridge, to prevent an accidental discharge, according to the lawsuit.

The safety mechanism only works when the revolver is in the one-quarter cocked position: When the revolver is un-cocked, half-cocked, or fully-cocked, the block is designed to not function.

While more extensive firearms testing is pending, the Davis family made two claims in the lawsuit: That the safety mechanism was defective, and that even if it was working properly, it was inadequate to prevent the gun from firing when dropped, according to the lawsuit.

Additionally, the Alstead Gun Shop should have fixed the defect or explained its shortcomings to Davis, the lawsuit asserts.

This article had it that the gun was "partially loaded" whatever that means.

This link was were I found the model:
http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2013/05/dropped-gun-death-results-in-lawsuit.html

I lot of people own and shoot replicas and older handguns. So even if firing pin blocks work every time not all handguns have them, and few if any long guns.

[gejohnston]

7. the only single action revolvers I would trust to load all chambers

are the post 1973 Rugers with a transfer bar. All others, I be old school.

[DonP]

8. Ruger will even upgrade an older model for free

I bought an older Bearcat model that the grand kids love shooting, when I went to register it with Ruger I found out they have a safety program to add a transfer bar safety to it for free.

I just paid for shipping it to them from an FFL and they totally replaced the action with a new Transfer Bar system and sent it back, along with all the old parts for the cost of shipping plus a discount coupon for Ruger gear.

So even a lot of older Rugers are now safe with 6.

Now, my clone of a Colt Series 1, not so much, with the firing pin on the hammer. But I don't think I'm going to carry an old Colt Peacemaker concealed any time soon.

[Eleanors38]

9. Yep. Police Service Six in .357. Proofed by a '64 Chevy Impala...

according to Ruger engineers who "scratched off" while the revolver was under the rear drive tire. Immediately fired normally in both actions.

Bought mine 12 yrs ago for $240. Now, I see it on-line for $450+.