New Hampshire lawmakers approve permitless conceal carry bill

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

http://www.jurist.org/paperchase/2017/02/new-hampshire-lawmakers-approve-permitless-conceal-carry-bill.php

[JURIST] The New Hampshire House of Representatives [official website] on Thursday approved a bill [SB 12 text] that would repeal the law prohibiting state citizens from carrying concealed firearms without a permit. Though similar bills have passed [NRA-ILA report] through the New Hampshire legislature twice, they were vetoed by the former governor, Senator Chuck Morse [official profile], on both occasions. The bill, backed by the National Rife Association (NRA) [advocacy website], would make New Hampshire the twelfth state to allow the concealed carrying of firearms, joining New England states Maine and Vermont. The bill, which passed with a 200-97 vote, must now be reviewed by Governor Christopher Sununu [official website], who is expected to sign it into law.

I'm not sure how I feel about not requiring a permit.
How do you folks feel?

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	The no permit option is the way to go
	7 (58%)
	The permit should be required and should be "shall issue"
	5 (42%)
	A discretionary "may issue" system is best
	0 (0%)
	No one ever needs to carry concealed
	0 (0%)
	Achtung! Ve vill tell you ven you need a gun!
	0 (0%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[rzemanfl]

1. Live free AND die? n/t

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

5. I notice you don't like any of the options

Care to share your opinion?

[rzemanfl]

6. I'm torn between the right to waste any bused in voters from Massachusetts and

the little children who will shoot themselves and other with guns they find.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

7. So you believe that not requiring a permit will lead to...

...children finding more unsecured guns. Is that right?

[rzemanfl]

8. No, I think more children will find unsecured guns. More spouses will be shot

in the heat of the moment because a gun was handy and all the other stuff that a wild west system enables. Guns are for hunting and target shooting, not companions to one's cell phone, keys and pocket comb.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

9. Is that sort of stuff going on...

...next door in Vermont where they've had the same law?
Is NH that different from VT?

[rzemanfl]

10. Well, if you want to collect statistics about 3 year-olds shooting themselves

in the head with guns they happened upon to prove your point, be my guest. I'd rather no three year-olds got shot in the head because they happened upon a loaded weapon. If there were no loaded handguns in homes that would be the case in both states. Maybe spouses would be beaten or stabbed to death rather than shot and bar fights with beer bottles or pool cues would replace shootings in exactly equal numbers. I doubt it.

[Turbineguy]

2. This is what wingnuts don't understand about Obamacare.

When I went on Obamacare I saved enough money to buy a new handgun every month. In the process, I made my home a happier, healthier and safer place.

But now that I am a highly paid protestor, I make too much money to qualify for Obamacare. But at least I can enjoy picking out new teak planking for the boathouse on my private island.

[pablo_marmol]

3. I am somewhat ambivalent.

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On the one hand, I believe that demonstration of some baseline skill level should be required for the protection of citizens in the event of a defensive gun use. On the other hand, the added expense of such training could be a de-facto ban for the poor who need protection most........as they live in dangerous, drug-infested areas. Cost of gun + safe + training could be a deal-breaker for some. I voted no permit -- which is consistent with my belief that society has an obligation to protect the vulnerable. This would include women, gays, the elderly and handicapped.

[Kang Colby]

4. 25% of states are now constitutional carry.

Was this the tipping point? LOL


You shouldn't need a permit to excercise a constitutionally protected right.