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HAB911

(8,888 posts)
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:14 AM Mar 2017

You Are More Likely To Be Shot In A Republican State

Solid ‘Blue’ Hawaii is the state where you’re least likely to be the victim of gun violence. However, states run by Republicans can’t make the same claim.

According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, you are much more likely to be shot if your state is run by Republicans.



Topping off the list is Alaska, where for every 100,000 people, 23.4 of them were shot to death. Louisiana comes in second with 20.4.

Alabama, Mississippi, and Wyoming are tied for third with 19.6. Following close behind is mostly red Montana with 19.2, which has a Democratic governor, but Republican-controlled state legislature. Solid red New Mexico comes in at 18.6; Missouri and Oklahoma score 18.1 and 18.0 respectively, per 100,000 residents.

South Carolina; 17.3, Arkansas: 16.9, Tennessee: 16.0, and Kentucky: 15.2, round out the top of the list.

http://samuel-warde.com/2017/02/data-shows-likely-shot-republican-state/

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You Are More Likely To Be Shot In A Republican State (Original Post) HAB911 Mar 2017 OP
Sounds like the numbers include gun suicides as well. krispos42 Mar 2017 #1
I figured this one discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #15
Any maps like this for safeinOhio Mar 2017 #2
Oh yeah HAB911 Mar 2017 #3
And of course the DEA GWC58 Mar 2017 #6
Alaska has always had a big suicide problem hack89 Mar 2017 #4
Thanks for sharing your opinion HAB911 Mar 2017 #5
That's why DU exists.nt hack89 Mar 2017 #8
IMHO, a fact finder finds facts that help him form an opinion. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #9
According to the CDC database: discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #7
If that's Camden, NJ, you'd better wear your bulletproof, yagotme Mar 2017 #10
Yes Camden, NJ I live 20 minutes away discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #13
I looked up Camden, and Maine and NJ both popped up. yagotme Mar 2017 #16
Oh crap. MarvinGardens Mar 2017 #11
Is this the same Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sarisataka Mar 2017 #12
While many aspects of gun "control" laws... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #14
Yeah, waiting for the posters to come along yagotme Mar 2017 #17

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
15. I figured this one
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 01:14 PM
Mar 2017

If you're in a state dominated by Republican politicians, you're more likely to kill yourself.






(Note: I do realize suicide is an important issue.)

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
6. And of course the DEA
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:04 AM
Mar 2017

will go after the bad actors. Just kidding! They're going to go for the "low hanging fruit," i.e. the legitimate pain patients and their doctors.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
9. IMHO, a fact finder finds facts that help him form an opinion.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:15 AM
Mar 2017

A fault finder finds faults that help him defend his prejudices.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
7. According to the CDC database:
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:04 AM
Mar 2017

Alaska suicides for 2015: 201 for a population of 738,432. That's 27.22 per 100,000. (All means= 201, firearms= 123)
Alaska homicides by firearm for 2015: 42 for a population of 738,432. That's 5.69 per 100,000.

Illinios suicides for 2015: 1,363 for a population of 12,859,995. That's 10.6 per 100,000. (All means= 1,363, firearms= 495 )
Illinios homicides by firearm for 2015: 692 for a population of 12,859,995. That's 5.38 per 100,000.

Illinois is a Democratic stronghold in presidential elections and one of the "big three" Democratic states alongside California and New York. It is considered one of the most Democratic states in the nation in presidential contests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_Illinois

I blame Governor Rauner for that anomaly. Electing a Democrat would cut homicides in half.
Since I live in a safe Democratic state, maybe I'll take a walk through downtown Camden tonight.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
13. Yes Camden, NJ I live 20 minutes away
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:18 PM
Mar 2017

It seems silly to go 90 minutes in the other direction to take a walk in downtown Newark.

Another state where the legislature has been blue for a long time is Maryland. I guess the problems in Baltimore are all due to the current governor from the other party.

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
16. I looked up Camden, and Maine and NJ both popped up.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 06:28 PM
Mar 2017

I therefore assumed you were NJ, due to "blue" reference. Probably like being in the "wrong" part of Chicago at night. (Thankfully, that's 5 hours away for me.)

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
12. Is this the same Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:07 PM
Mar 2017

that found:

1. Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker:
“Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.”

2. Defensive uses of guns are common:
“Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”

3. Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining:
“The number of public mass shootings of the type that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School accounted for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths. Since 1983 there have been 78 events in which 4 or more individuals were killed by a single perpetrator in 1 day in the United States, resulting in 547 victims and 476 injured persons.” The report also notes, “Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”

4. “Interventions” (i.e, gun control) such as background checks, so-called assault rifle bans and gun-free zones produce “mixed” results:
“Whether gun restrictions reduce firearm-related violence is an unresolved issue.” The report could not conclude whether “passage of right-to-carry laws decrease or increase violence crime.”

5. Gun buyback/turn-in programs are “ineffective” in reducing crime:
“There is empirical evidence that gun turn in programs are ineffective, as noted in the 2005 NRC study Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review. For example, in 2009, an estimated 310 million guns were available to civilians in the United States (Krouse, 2012), but gun buy-back programs typically recover less than 1,000 guns (NRC, 2005). On the local level, buy-backs may increase awareness of firearm violence. However, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for example, guns recovered in the buy-back were not the same guns as those most often used in homicides and suicides (Kuhn et al., 2002).”

6. Stolen guns and retail/gun show purchases account for very little crime:
“More recent prisoner surveys suggest that stolen guns account for only a small percentage of guns used by convicted criminals. … According to a 1997 survey of inmates, approximately 70 percent of the guns used or possess by criminals at the time of their arrest came from family or friends, drug dealers, street purchases, or the underground market.”

7. The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides:
“Between the years 2000-2010 firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups, annually accounting for 61 percent of the more than 335,600 people who died from firearms related violence in the United States.”

in their report Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence, ordered by President Obama?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
14. While many aspects of gun "control" laws...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:24 PM
Mar 2017

...are unproven in their effectiveness and popular due their being "common sense", they are responsible for keeping some of those red states red.

But no that must be another CDC, probably one that's financed by the NRA.

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