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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 11:08 PM Oct 2017

27 years of gun sales

This discussion thread was locked by krispos42 (a host of the Gun Control & RKBA group).

Last edited Fri Nov 24, 2017, 04:07 PM - Edit history (2)

November 24, 2017

My kid's out of the house, my girlfriend is sleeping, and work is closed. So I decided to delve into this topic in more detail. See my newest thread on the subject.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1172205094

-Krispos42


I've taken the trouble to summarize some of the data from the ATF's annual "Report on Firearms Commerce in the U.S."

The 2015 report is here:

https://www.atf.gov/about/docs/report/2015-report-firearms-commerce-us

It's a PDF, not particularly long (22 pages), a few tables and some graphs.

I combined domestic firearms production (10.8 million in 2013) with US population figures to get some gun-sales-per-capita figures. Here they are. Note I scaled the handgun, rifle, and shotgun graphs equally for apples-to-apples comparison.









The graphs show domestic firearm production per 1,000 people. Obviously it doesn't include imports of guns (over 3.6 million in 2013) or exports of guns (slightly under 400k in 2013); maybe tomorrow I'll throw in those numbers as well.

Offhand, it seems that effort to enact gun-control results in MORE guns being made and sold. If your goal as a person on the anti-gun side is for fewer guns per capita, it seems it's backfiring. Rifle and handgun sales are shown being way up while shotguns remain relatively flat, which is probably explained by the urbanization of America resulting in more guns for self-defense purposes and fewer for hunting. And well over half of gun imports are handguns (Glocks are made in Austria, for example).

Discuss away.
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27 years of gun sales (Original Post) krispos42 Oct 2017 OP
More bans and restrictions are not the answer. J_William_Ryan Oct 2017 #1
Well what is your answer? nt doc03 Oct 2017 #2
One solution would be to make open carry mandatory HAB911 Oct 2017 #3
How about all poc exercising their open carry rights? Of course doc03 Oct 2017 #4
+++++++++++ HAB911 Oct 2017 #5

J_William_Ryan

(1,748 posts)
1. More bans and restrictions are not the answer.
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 11:27 PM
Oct 2017

doc03

(35,293 posts)
2. Well what is your answer? nt
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 12:10 AM
Oct 2017

HAB911

(8,867 posts)
3. One solution would be to make open carry mandatory
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 08:34 AM
Oct 2017

with Stand your ground laws like we have here in Florida, thinning of the herd would eventually bring these numbers down after a spike of more guns/less people.



sad I have to include:

doc03

(35,293 posts)
4. How about all poc exercising their open carry rights? Of course
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 08:39 AM
Oct 2017

they would run the risk of being shot on sight.

HAB911

(8,867 posts)
5. +++++++++++
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 08:42 AM
Oct 2017
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