Sun Nov 19, 2017, 06:16 PM
ClarendonDem (720 posts)
Interesting poll results regarding an assault weapon ban
I would have expected older voters to oppose such a ban, but the exact opposite appears to be true.
Resistance to a ban on military-style assault weapons is strongest among millennials, according to a new Quinnipiac poll released this week. It’s a finding that experts said might be driven by the popularity of first-person shooter video games such as Call of Duty and the increasing prominence of military-style guns in the consumer market.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/19/americans-millennials-assault-weapons-ban-poll
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ClarendonDem | Nov 2017 | OP |
EL34x4 | Nov 2017 | #1 | |
ClarendonDem | Nov 2017 | #2 | |
EL34x4 | Nov 2017 | #4 | |
dae | Nov 2017 | #9 | |
Fred Sanders | Nov 2017 | #3 | |
Lurks Often | Nov 2017 | #6 | |
Fred Sanders | Nov 2017 | #7 | |
Lurks Often | Nov 2017 | #8 | |
Fred Sanders | Nov 2017 | #10 | |
Lurks Often | Nov 2017 | #11 | |
discntnt_irny_srcsm | Nov 2017 | #12 | |
krispos42 | Nov 2017 | #5 | |
yagotme | Nov 2017 | #13 |
Response to ClarendonDem (Original post)
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 07:06 PM
EL34x4 (2,003 posts)
1. Lots of older Americans think the 2nd Amendment is about the right to hunt.
And ARs and AKs aren’t really hunting rifles so there’s no point in owning them.
Younger gun owners are less likely to be hunters to begin with. |
Response to EL34x4 (Reply #1)
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 07:12 PM
ClarendonDem (720 posts)
2. any support for that claim?
haven't heard that before
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Response to ClarendonDem (Reply #2)
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 08:25 PM
EL34x4 (2,003 posts)
4. Nope. Just anecdotal observations combined with a measurable decline in hunting.
And a measurable increase in the popularity of modern sporting rifles.
I know plenty of old guys who've hunted their whole lives and would never think of owning an AR-15. I know plenty of younger guys who have never hunted and do own AR-15s. |
Response to EL34x4 (Reply #4)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:37 AM
dae (3,396 posts)
9. Sums me up pretty well. I was more into shotguns, and handguns. Owned a .22 rifle for
plinking and a .270 for deer. Gave everything to my sons years ago but still enjoy purchasing and shooting handguns at the range.
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Response to ClarendonDem (Original post)
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 07:22 PM
Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)
3. HIGHEST support for assault weapons ban ever. And 95 % in favor of background check
tightening makes the NRA weep.
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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #3)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:48 AM
Lurks Often (5,455 posts)
6. The last major victory the gun control advocates won in Congress was in 1994
and less then 2 months later the Republicans took control of the House for the first time since 1952
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_elections,_1994 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban How many more of those "victories" can the country take? |
Response to Lurks Often (Reply #6)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 10:47 AM
Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)
7. Teddy N., is that you?
Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #7)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:17 AM
Lurks Often (5,455 posts)
8. How sad for you that's the best you can manage in a response.
Response to Lurks Often (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 11:37 AM
Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)
10. Just tit for tat. You can do better than canned NRA propaganda. I know you can!
Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #10)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 02:59 PM
Lurks Often (5,455 posts)
11. Those were facts, not propaganda
Response to Lurks Often (Reply #11)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 03:30 PM
discntnt_irny_srcsm (18,347 posts)
12. that's gonna leave a mark
Oh wait, it already did.
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Response to ClarendonDem (Original post)
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:30 PM
krispos42 (49,445 posts)
5. Semiautomatic rifles are the new normal
Technology evolved, demographics evolved, needs evolved.
Scopes, red dot sights, aiming lasers, and high intensity LED lights are now common accessories on guns, whether long- or hand-guns, whether for tactical or sporting use. 50 years ago, scopes on hunting rifles was not common; iron sights ruled. Now, it's unusual to not have one, even in you have a traditional wooden-stocked bolt-action gun. Even shorter range guns like lever action .30-30s have scopes on them. Protruding pistol grips, matte non-glaring finishes, and adjustable, durable plastic furniture are clearly better than "traditional" gun ergonomics, and the attempts to lock us in 1925 are not being taken well. |
Response to krispos42 (Reply #5)
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 03:51 PM
yagotme (1,517 posts)
13. And, unfortunately, some wish us to have nothing at all.
https://giffords.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Giffords-Lethal-and-Legal-1.pdf
Page 8: "Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound. If any other firearm were built with such a device, it would be subject to the NFA as a silencer. But since this device is designed to suppress the sound of something that is exempt from federal firearms laws, it is not considered a silencer and not subject to the NFA. In fact, it is not subject to any laws at all and can be bought online." They make no difference in the article, or attempt to separate the NEWLY designed Silencio .50 cal muzzle loader with integral, non-detachable suppressor, with the MILLIONS of other muzzle loading rifles. Actually, a .50 cal muzzle loader would have been considered a minor caliber on the Revolutionary War front. .69 was generally the go-to musket. It seems to me they are combining the "suppressor" fear with the ".50 cal" fear. A front stuffer is NOT a .50 BMG. Still waiting for them to find a way to get rid of all that billowing, white smoke when you pull the trigger. (Can't imagine trying to clean that thing. Black powder is very corrosive, and will eat steel out very quickly if not properly cleaned. And a non-removable suppressor would be a PITA to clean.) And, as far as a mass shooting, 1-2 shots a minute are not going to rack up a long list of victims. |