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Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:16 PM

Crossroads Gun Show returns to Del Mar, CA

DEL MAR, Calif. — 'The Crossroads of the West Gun Show' is returning this weekend at Del Mar, CA, after a nine-month hiatus, and more people are expected because it was suspended for so long. Nearly 10,000 people are expected to attend the gun show in Del Mar this weekend.

Last year, the Del Mar Fairgrounds Board of Directors voted to suspend the gun show in response to requests from gun safety advocates. Crossroads filed a lawsuit against the fairgrounds and state of California. The lawsuit claimed the ban violated their first and second amendment rights – the right to commercial speech and the right to assembly. A federal judge issued an injunction in June allowing the shows to resume, and this weekend’s show will be the first one since that ruling.

Assembly Bill 893 has the potential to permanently end guns sales at the Del Mar Fairgrounds. Governor Gavin Newsom has until October 13 to sign or veto the bill.

The group Never Again CA is targeting the Del Mar gun show. “We have children that pass by the gun show on their way to a lock down drill at school,” said Rose Ann Sharp.
Rose Ann Sharp, who is the founder of Never Again CA, said she wants to stop the sales of firearms and ammunition on state owned property.

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/crossroads-gun-show-returns-to-del-mar/509-6b6d6d18-7cf4-4df1-ab86-fca6aef42b59

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Reply Crossroads Gun Show returns to Del Mar, CA (Original post)
left-of-center2012 Sep 28 OP
guillaumeb Sep 28 #1
Straw Man Sep 29 #2
friendly_iconoclast Sep 30 #5
melm00se Sep 29 #3
yagotme Sep 30 #4
flamin lib Oct 15 #11
melm00se Oct 16 #13
flamin lib Oct 16 #14
Alea Oct 16 #15
flamin lib Oct 16 #16
Alea Oct 16 #17
discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 17 #18
discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 1 #6
MrsCoffee Oct 14 #7
discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 14 #8
MrsCoffee Oct 14 #9
discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 14 #10
Straw Man Oct 16 #12

Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2019, 04:37 PM

1. Just what is needed.

More guns that might be sold to straw buyers, and later used to kill innocent people.

More guns in the hands of people who will use them in anger.

More guns to defend civilians from an oppressive Government.

What could possibly go wrong?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 29, 2019, 02:14 PM

2. California has universal background checks.

Straw buying is against federal law.

What more could you possibly want?

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Response to Straw Man (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:31 PM

5. You went and ruined their handwringing with pesky facts

Nice work!

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sun Sep 29, 2019, 03:10 PM

3. ummmmm

“We have children that pass by the gun show on their way to a lock down drill at school,”

Do kids have lockdown drills at school on weekends?

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Response to melm00se (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 30, 2019, 06:05 PM

4. Obviously.

They are going to school just for the drill, the way I read it...

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Response to melm00se (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:29 PM

11. Except the signs advertising the show

go up weeks before the show and stay up until somebody else rents the signage space.

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Response to flamin lib (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 07:00 AM

13. But that's not

what the founder of Never Again CA said:

“We have children that pass by the gun show on their way to a lock down drill at school,” said Rose Ann Sharp.


Furthermore, it sounds like you are intimating that the mere presence of an advertising sign is a threat to the public?

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Response to melm00se (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 09:31 AM

14. Please don't inflate my comments.

The point being made is that for people, in this case school kids, who are intimidated by guns because of some trigger, in this case active shooter drills, do not have to walk the aisle of a gun show to be frightened. The mere presence of the show and it's promotion can be enough.

Just as the gun show promoters have a 'right' to put on their displays, the local citizenry also has a 'right' to give input to local government about it. That is what they are doing.

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Response to flamin lib (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 08:49 PM

15. He's not inflating, you are.

The OP and Article says nothing about the signs. You have inflated from "Bad Gun Show" to "Bad Signs."

Also, those same kids will go home and play Call to Duty and watch all three of the John Wick movies instead of doing their homework or studying. Anti gun parents might project and say "Oh the horror of those signs" but I doubt the kids will give it a thought. I know I wouldn't have when I was a kid. I might have even wanted to go to the gun show, which is maybe what you are worried about.

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Response to Alea (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 09:22 PM

16. You ain't worth my time. NT

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Response to flamin lib (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 09:48 PM

17. Well these set backs do get in the way of your time line

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Response to Alea (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 17, 2019, 12:05 PM

18. To be fair to both sides...

...there is the saying, 'Your right to swing a fist ends where my nose begins.'
In view of this, swinging a fist to within a few inches of a nose may incite a negative reaction.
OTOH, there are those with an inflated opinion of their noses.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:41 AM

6. Nonsense

https://goo.gl/maps/arFRKkpDmLPYXr4XA

Jimmy Durante Blvd skirts the parking lot which is about 300 feet from the exhibit area. Now for most folks trying to get from the North side of the grounds to the South or vice versa, the Camino Del Mar and I-5 both provide a route further from that evil parking area.

The folks who actually live closest to the venue on the North side need to drive Southeast to get to the high school. Those closest on the South need to drive North (around the venue) to reach the middle school. I personally wouldn't pay over to $2 million for a tract house 2 miles from the middle school if I had school age children, but that's me. Nor would I live in a town with no middle school at all.

However, as has already been pointed out, the subject event is always held on a weekend.

I have a buddy that lives in the next town North of Solona Beach with some school age kids. I will ask him if he's concerned about driving by the venue...or at least by a sign for the venue.

I would personally be more offended to have to drive by a trump sign.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 09:46 AM

7. Those signs make me uneasy as an adult.

Makes me wonder how a young child going through school lock down drills these days would feel about driving by a sign that says they are going to have a big gun sale close by. And then there is the fact that 10,000 people will be showing up nearby to buy guns.

But hey, what's the problem, right?

I'm also offended by Trump signs.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 11:42 AM

8. Do the same children...

...ever drive by a regular gun shop which remains present 24/7/365?
Or do those shops have no signs?

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 12:59 PM

9. I doubt they do.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #9)

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:36 PM

10. I confess I don't know that area at all

I worked across from LAX for a long time and in Orange County as well but only for a month.
https://goo.gl/maps/NxSHw4JR7qLG2s2q6

Perhaps Del Mar is a bit more sheltered.

Welcome to the group, regardless.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 12:04 AM

12. Relax.

Makes me wonder how a young child going through school lock down drills these days would feel about driving by a sign that says they are going to have a big gun sale close by.

Is that any more cause for concern than the roughly 8,000 murders a child will have seen dramatized on television by the time he/she finishes elementary school?

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