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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:33 PM Jul 2012

Gun Control Supporters Seek Reboot After Political Inaction

Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, has no qualms about stating his view of the obvious: Efforts to enact gun control legislation aren’t working.

“We just need to re-frame this whole conversation away from being part of the political debate,” he said today. “We need to expect more of ourselves and more of our leaders. There’s a disconnect between the interests of the American people and what our politicians are doing.”

The Brady Campaign, named after Ronald Reagan assistant James Brady, wants to reboot the national conversation and part of that, it seems, means taking its name off the masthead. The group will launch a new website later tonight called wearebettterthanthis.org (it’s not live yet) that will play down its sponsorship by the Brady campaign.

The idea, he said, is rescue the debate from the poles on either side of the gun control issue. The new site will feature a petition demanding politicians start talking about gun violence and how to prevent it. “It begins at the top with the president and Mitt Romney offering more than sympathy,” Gross said.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/gun-control-supporters-seek-reboot-after-politcal-inaction/
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Gun Control Supporters Seek Reboot After Political Inaction (Original Post) SecularMotion Jul 2012 OP
Bad sectors...a reboot won't help. ileus Jul 2012 #1
taking lessons from Dick Armey? gejohnston Jul 2012 #2
Yes we do need all the help they can get...I do feel alright movonne Jul 2012 #5
high powered is not gejohnston Jul 2012 #7
"there should be more restriction on all these high powered automatic rifels" rl6214 Jul 2012 #11
" Efforts to enact gun control legislation aren’t working" PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #3
The Brady Bill was passed in 1994 permatex Jul 2012 #9
That's hilarious permatex Jul 2012 #4
Right wing victory Kolesar Jul 2012 #6
Oh, C'mon permatex Jul 2012 #10
Right wing has nothing to do with it...Pro 2A victory rl6214 Jul 2012 #12
Ohio GOPs' Facebook postings are loaded with this pro-gun crowing Kolesar Jul 2012 #14
Never spent any time at the Ohio GOP Facebook page, maybe you shouldn't either rl6214 Jul 2012 #15
guilt by association? gejohnston Jul 2012 #16
"Abbey" was not an Ohio politician...eom Kolesar Jul 2012 #17
true, but gejohnston Jul 2012 #18
Well at least they waited a respectful amount of time to capitalize on this tragedy 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #8
Rebranding bullshit is still bullshit. nt rrneck Jul 2012 #13

ileus

(15,396 posts)
1. Bad sectors...a reboot won't help.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jul 2012

Until controllers admit a ban (total or just handguns) is the ultimate goal the American people won't bite. There's nothing that will cause a wall of resistance like being lied to.

"Well this is a start" type stuff and fluff like "pistol grips are evil " turn off everyone but the most dedicated anti.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
2. taking lessons from Dick Armey?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jul 2012

Sounds like they are doing the same thing he did when creating the tea party and Americans for Prosperity. It sounds more grassy rootsy, when it is still astro turf. Let us know when it is up.


they need all the help they can get.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/expenditures.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00113449

movonne

(9,623 posts)
5. Yes we do need all the help they can get...I do feel alright
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:55 PM
Jul 2012

about having guns but also I feel that there should be more restriction on all these high powered automatic rifels..and maybe people who have guns should have to have a license like we have for driving...

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
7. high powered is not
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

how I would describe the rifle used, technical thing. Automatics have been pretty tightly restricted since the 1930s. At least you are admitting they are astro turf.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
11. "there should be more restriction on all these high powered automatic rifels"
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 04:24 PM
Jul 2012

Automatic rifles are heavily regulated, very expensive to own and were not even used in this shooting. The last time an automatic weapons was used in a crime was the North Hollywood shooting in 1997.

 

permatex

(1,299 posts)
9. The Brady Bill was passed in 1994
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 04:17 PM
Jul 2012

since then, nothing, the AWB was allowed to sunset because it did nothing to reduce crime, 49 of 50 states now have some form of Conceal Carry, SYG laws, need I go on? I hope your not hanging your hat on the Brady Bill as momentum for gun control.

 

permatex

(1,299 posts)
4. That's hilarious
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:52 PM
Jul 2012

He can't even get Pres. Obama to talk about gun control.

Here's what I predict: the controllers will whine and moan about their lack of influence, blame the NRA, blame pro 2A politicians, ask for donations, actually, they'll beg for donations, Meanwhile no one in the House or Senate will craft any legislation except the usual suspects, they will be ignored, gun rights will march on.

Have I about got it right?

 

permatex

(1,299 posts)
10. Oh, C'mon
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 04:19 PM
Jul 2012

you can do better than that, where am I wrong.
I'll add one more, controllers will post on internet boards more and more insults because they feel powerless to stop the advancement of gun rights.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
14. Ohio GOPs' Facebook postings are loaded with this pro-gun crowing
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jul 2012

It is really not that complicated.
RW victory

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
15. Never spent any time at the Ohio GOP Facebook page, maybe you shouldn't either
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 05:19 PM
Jul 2012

if it gets you all worked up.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
16. guilt by association?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 05:21 PM
Jul 2012

I have read Abbey longer than you have probably been alive. I remember the day I read of his passing. After work, I went to the NCO club and drank a six pack in his honor. His views on gun control were closer to mine than yours.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
18. true, but
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 05:49 PM
Jul 2012

you missed the point. Never mind. So, what does the Ohio GOP facebook page have to do with us? Why what someone posts there matter?

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
8. Well at least they waited a respectful amount of time to capitalize on this tragedy
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

I wonder if they'll give speeches at the funerals?

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