Home intruders get more than they bargain for in Atlanta

[rDigital]

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/home-intruders-get-more-than-they-bargain-for-in-a/nR2Sd/

Two suspects in an Atlanta home invasion were arrested Saturday night after being shot and beaten by the homeowner during the invasion, according to police.

Marques Hurley and Jabril Meyers were charged with burglary, armed robbery, possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony, cruelty to animals and aggravated assault, according to Atlanta Police spokeswoman Kim Jones. The homeowner’s dog was shot during the invasion.
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The police followed a bloody trail to a house on McDill Avenue where they found a dog in a cage with gunshot wounds, two semi-automatic weapons and the homeowner Braddon Robbins and two friends. Robbins told police he was outside his home earlier that evening when he was approached by a man he knew as “Curly” who asked him if he wanted to buy a television. Curly was later identified as Meyers. Robbins offered to give Meyers $150 for the TV. Meyers said he needed more and Robbins went inside his home to get the money. When he came back to the door, Meyers was holding a gun through the door and told Robbins to open the door or he would kill him. Meyers and Hurley then entered the home. Robbins said he got the gun away from Meyers and ran to the back of his home. Meyers grabbed another gun from his bag and began firing at Robbins. Meyers then shot Robbins’ dog . Robbins responded by shooting Meyers. He then yelled at Hurley to drop his gun, when Hurley did Robbins began beating Hurley. The two suspects later fled in a Green Ford Taurus which ended up in an accident. Robbins’ friends corroborated his story.

This is pretty sad, one of the assailants even shot the homeowner's dog. I'm sure there are those who would be happy to see this homeowner disarmed, helpless & depending on the police to protect his life.

However, that's not the case. Mr. Robbins decided to take an active role in the defense of his person. He wasn't carrying on his person, but he made sure that his firearm was accessible to him in an emergency such as the one that he encountered. Maybe, he will think about getting a concealed carry license and carrying on his person. He got lucky this time and hopefully there never is a next time.

[Loudly]

1. The assailants were armed with at least one gun.

This is a guns-as-solutions-to-guns story.

Zero points awarded.

[holdencaufield]

2. Not sure I understand your point?

This is -- as I understand it -- a LEGAL use of guns as a solution to the ILLEGAL use of guns story, don't you agree?

Reinstatement of House Points.

[Loudly]

3. The story was posted to highlight the need for homeowners to have guns.

To, in effect, glorify the homeowner's gun as a wonderful thing.

But the need for the homeowner to have a gun results from the public's access to guns as evidenced by the assailants' possession of one.

So this story does not advance the argument whatsoever in favor of access to guns and ammunition.

At best, it is a push. A gun being lauded as a solution to a gun.

No points awarded.

[holdencaufield]

4. Is it your suggestion ...

... that there is a way to remove guns from those who chose to violate the law? How so, with gun laws? Have you thought this all the way through?

How do you account for the rising incidents of gun-related crimes in places like the UK or Australia (or Chicago for that matter) where guns are heavily restricted?

House points restored.

[Loudly]

7. Scarcity needs to be the goal. Plain and simple.

Scarcity not proliferation.

Where does proliferation take us?

[rDigital]

8. What do you propose unarmed victims who find themselves

on the business end of "scarce firearms" do?













Bicycle wheel? Beans (I hear that soup works better)?

[Loudly]

12. Where does proliferation take us?

Can't you see five feet ahead of you?

[rDigital]

14. It's OK, you don't have to answer my questions.

[Clames]

20. Obviously not where you think it does.

Only obvious thing here is your lack of evidence to support your assertion. Typical.

[holdencaufield]

13. Prayer and Fasting ...

[ileus]

11. To the range.

With lots of options for the whole family to enjoy shooting.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

9. Yo Shares...you are not even hiding it anymore

[Missycim]

21. I know,

its almost an insult to DU to do it the way he is doing it.

[rDigital]

6. Does this make you feel better?

All of these robbers were stabbed by the homeowner:

http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/fourth-person-arrested-in-alleged-waterloo-home-invasion/article_f13c3f38-f10d-11e1-ad84-0019bb2963f4.html

7:30 a.m. Wednesday - WATERLOO, Iowa --- Two Cedar Falls residents who told police they were stabbed and robbed during an early Tuesday morning scuffle have been arrested.

Officers said the people were stabbed in self defense when they broke in to a home.

Police arrested Branden James Boyer, 17, Milo David Rousseau, 37, and for first-degree burglary and second-degree robbery Tuesday night. They were taken to the Black Hawk County Jail.

They also arrested a third person, Trevor Allen Kern, 17, of Cedar Falls, who was the alleged getaway driver, police said. Kern wasn’t injured.

[Loudly]

10. Yeah, that's the feel good story of the year.

[rDigital]

15. I guess we should make knives and blunt objects "scarce" too or you will never be satisfied.

I must admit. You're hard to please.

[holdencaufield]

16. Drill presses and lathes ...

... can be used by any moderately skilled person to manufacture serviceable weapons. Perhaps they need to be banned as well.

Prior to the establishment of Israel -- Jews (who were prohibited by the British Administration to own firearms) created fully functional recreations of STEN Guns in secret using plumbing supplies.

[Loudly]

17. Seriously, that story probably deserves more than one point.

Home invasion both initiated and foiled without the use of a firearm.

If the homeowner had used a gun, it would get the single point.

[rDigital]

18. It would have been over quicker if the homeowner had used a can of beans.

The other suspects would have ran in terror.

That's at least 7 points by my accounting.

[Loudly]

19. If the point system is confined to justifying guns, though.

There can only be one point awarded. It's a binary condition.

Either the story supports the proposition that guns belong in the hands of the public or it doesn't.

This one does, since no gun was used to initiate the attack.

It is not a guns-as-solution-to-guns story, which so many of them are, and which do nothing to justify gun availability.

[ileus]

5. 3 points for successful SD use of a PSD.

Something to learn from every successful SD gun use.