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mikeb302000

(1,065 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:24 AM Sep 2012

Houston's Stolen Guns

The Houston Chronicle reports

Cabdrivers Mohammed Elsayed and Blaise Nwokenaka, shot dead by the last passengers of their lives, were killed with a .380-caliber Cobra pistol - a gun stolen just 20 days earlier.

Nineteen-year-old Shanetria Grogan was slain by her ex-boyfriend, shot in the head with a .380-caliber Jimenez Arms semi-automatic pistol, also stolen. And 23-year-old Leroy Pierson, killed in a drug deal gone bad, suffered a fatal wound from a .40-caliber Smith & Wesson semi-automatic pistol, yet one more ripped-off weapon.

At least 32,000 guns, some 4,000 every year, have been stolen from Houston-area homes, cars, pawn shops and even gun dealers since 2005, with only 7 percent of them ever recovered, a Houston Chronicle analysis shows.


And this is only Houston, and what we know about. Can you imagine the extent of the problem nation-wide?

The solution is obvious. Safe storage laws plus a reporting of stolen guns requirement would take care of the rest.

This wouldn't be a 100% solution, nothing is, but it would go a long way towards improving things.

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
Cross posted at Mikeb302000
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Houston's Stolen Guns (Original Post) mikeb302000 Sep 2012 OP
What is the "obvious" solution? Please leave a comment. Common Sense Party Sep 2012 #1
I left a link. n.t. mikeb302000 Sep 2012 #7
Silly me. I was asking for a solution, not a link. Common Sense Party Sep 2012 #14
This article is already under discussion in SecMo's thread (with the original Chron title) petronius Sep 2012 #2
Not to be too realistic here, MercutioATC Sep 2012 #3
you're playing dumb. mikeb302000 Sep 2012 #8
I asked you a question. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #12
Don't hold your breath waiting for a cogent answer... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #15
that's the wrong question mikeb302000 Sep 2012 #17
NYPD can stop selling them to gangs gejohnston Sep 2012 #18
It wasn't that it was 'wrong', it's more like that the answer is rather inconvenient for you. friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #19
If you go into a bar in Houston, there's a gun per person. SDjack Sep 2012 #4
This has already been posted in another Google Dump. oneshooter Sep 2012 #5
Dupe thread. Clames Sep 2012 #6
Whenever I read... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #10
duplicate ileus Sep 2012 #9
Doop rDigital Sep 2012 #11
Houston's Violent Criminals - there, fixed it for you. nt hack89 Sep 2012 #13
Dupe, you and circularmotion but he was first rl6214 Sep 2012 #16

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
14. Silly me. I was asking for a solution, not a link.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:26 PM
Sep 2012

Seems to me that if you have some great solution, you should be willing to share it.

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
3. Not to be too realistic here,
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:31 AM
Sep 2012

but how would reporting a stolen gun prevent the thief (or the person he sold it to) committing a crime with it?

"The solution is obvious"? Hardly.

mikeb302000

(1,065 posts)
8. you're playing dumb.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 02:51 PM
Sep 2012

Guns being registered to a particular owner and the requirement to report if the gun is stolen would work to make gun owners more responsible. Obviously you guys need help. You're doing a piss poor job at hanging onto your property now.

 

MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
12. I asked you a question.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:01 PM
Sep 2012

Assume for a moment that I'm completely on board with your idea. How does requiring a legal gun owner to report the theft in whatever timely fashion prevent the person who stole it from committing a crime with it?


mikeb302000

(1,065 posts)
17. that's the wrong question
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 01:17 AM
Sep 2012

Yo should be asking, what can a responsible gun owner do to prevent the thief from having such easy access to his guns.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
18. NYPD can stop selling them to gangs
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 01:30 AM
Sep 2012

LAPD can stop putting armories in abandoned buildings with no alarm systems.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
19. It wasn't that it was 'wrong', it's more like that the answer is rather inconvenient for you.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 02:06 AM
Sep 2012

From the linked article:

Of the cases reported to Houston police involving stolen guns taken in robberies and burglaries, authorities identified suspects or made arrests in about 8 percent of the incidents.


So even if the owners do what you claim to want, there's a 92% chance that those guns are gone for good- and you take this as proof that the owners are irresponsible?

Let's take another look at your claim about gun owners:

You're doing a piss poor job at hanging onto your property now.


Again, from the article:

More than 2.9 million guns nationwide currently are flagged by police as having been stolen or recovered


Well considering that a quick and dirty Googling gives figures that there are anywhere from 270-310 million civilian guns in the United States, that gives the average gun owner
about a 1% chance of having their guns stolen. Hardly a sign of rampant irresponsibility, imo.

Mikey, you really should try getting another NGO gig. You're doing a piss-poor job as a political blogger...

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
4. If you go into a bar in Houston, there's a gun per person.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:37 AM
Sep 2012

If you aren't carrying one, that means someone else has two.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
16. Dupe, you and circularmotion but he was first
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 04:51 PM
Sep 2012

And you're still posting your blind links to your blog, even though in another thread you told me you weren't doing it. If the solution was that obvious, you would post what the solution was instead of a blind link to your blog.

That's my opinion and I'm stickin to it.

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