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mikeb302000

(1,065 posts)
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:49 AM Sep 2012

More on the Kansas City Stadium Shooting

The Kansas City Star has a follow up in the story we posted last week in which I rightly guessed that it was domestic violence.

Kansas City police identified a 40-year-old man who shot a former girlfriend at Kauffman Stadium on Friday before killing himself as Marcus L. Collins of Raytown.

Collins drove into the stadium’s Parking Lot A about 3:20 p.m. Friday and apparently summoned the woman, who was riding a golf cart, to his car. When she approached on foot, he shot at her several times and she tried to run, police said. She was struck at least once in the abdomen.

Collins, who never got out of his car, then shot himself.

Police said Collins had known the woman about 20 years and they recently had begun dating.

Police said the two apparently had a falling-out and had not been speaking lately. They did not have any history of domestic violence, and Friday’s shootings shocked relatives on both sides.

You don't suppose anyone would say that domestic violence must take place in the home, do you? We have some pretty argumentative commenters around here, but I think even they can admit this was a case of domestic violence.

Will they also agree that guns are bad news for women? That's the real question.

You see, where there are more guns, more women are killed in domestic violence incidents, and not by a little. The numbers are shocking when we compare high-gun states with low-gun states.

It's just like the difference between intentional homicide in the UK compared to the US. Fewer guns, the murders are 4 times less.

What do you think? Please leave a comment.
Cross posted at Mikeb302000
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More on the Kansas City Stadium Shooting (Original Post) mikeb302000 Sep 2012 OP
I thought you weren't posting blind links to your blog anymore rl6214 Sep 2012 #1
please show us where I said that mikeb302000 Sep 2012 #6
You're accused me of "playing loose with the facts" rl6214 Sep 2012 #13
and based on that exchange you said: mikeb302000 Sep 2012 #14
I'm not the one posting blind links to lure your victims to your website rl6214 Sep 2012 #16
But, I'm not the one who plays loose with the facts. n-t. mikeb302000 Sep 2012 #20
You are the WORST at playing loose with the facts rl6214 Sep 2012 #21
my wife loves her 642 with CT grip. ileus Sep 2012 #2
My wife has the same thing. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #4
More blog flogging Missycim Sep 2012 #3
I considered going over there and getting rrneck Sep 2012 #5
if you and enough of your friends keep saying that mikeb302000 Sep 2012 #7
What kind of simpleton rrneck Sep 2012 #10
Here's an original idea which I updated just today. mikeb302000 Sep 2012 #15
Draconian penalties for minor infractions are hardly new. rrneck Sep 2012 #19
I'm thoroughly impressed and apparently small minded? Excellent analysis, doctor. rDigital Sep 2012 #12
Don't bother glacierbay Sep 2012 #9
He could at least be creative. rrneck Sep 2012 #11
Guns are great for women when they are used to defend themselves from dangerous partners aikoaiko Sep 2012 #8
If you have a dangerous partner mikeb302000 Sep 2012 #17
Its never too late to protect yourself. aikoaiko Sep 2012 #18
 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
1. I thought you weren't posting blind links to your blog anymore
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:57 AM
Sep 2012

Three of the four links in your post go to your blog. You told me you weren't doing that anymore. I don't know why you should be anymore truthfull in that than you would be in anything else.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
13. You're accused me of "playing loose with the facts"
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:03 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Thu Sep 20, 2012, 04:54 PM - Edit history (1)

I told the new crowd here that the links you posted lead to your blog. You accused me of "playing loose with the facts" and then said "the first link goes to the original article at ESPN. " So one of the four links you posted was not to your blog. You insinuated in your reply that your links did not go to your blog. You are wrong.



rl6214 (6,819 posts) blo
1. Mikey, you're up awefully early, or awefully late...What time is it in Italy?

For those of you that don't know about Mikey's links he posts, they lead to his blog, he won't link directly to the article itself so unless you want to be part of supporting his blog or get slammed with his anti-gun rants, don't click on any of the links.
"Often in these domestic shootings the guy kills the girl and only wounds himself. "

Actually the guy normally kills himself so he doesn't have to answer to his crimes, but of course you knew that.
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Response to rl6214 (Reply #1)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:26 AM
mikeb302000 (691 posts)
6. Actually

the first link goes to the original article at ESPN.

Playing loose with the facts again, eh rl?

mikeb302000

(1,065 posts)
14. and based on that exchange you said:
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 01:18 AM
Sep 2012

"I thought you weren't posting links to your blog anymore."

Yes, you like to play loose with the facts. You like to stretch and twist all in an attempt at personal attacking of the Original Poster, me.

Now, why would you do that? Maybe when you have a shit argument, and you can't win straight up, you resort to tricks and bullshit.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
5. I considered going over there and getting
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:20 AM
Sep 2012

whatever you had to say on your blog, but it was so banal and silly it just wasn't worth the mouse clicks.

mikeb302000

(1,065 posts)
7. if you and enough of your friends keep saying that
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:43 AM
Sep 2012

it'll gain some credibility with the small-minded simpletons you keep trying to impress.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
10. What kind of simpleton
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:04 PM
Sep 2012

are you trying to impress? I have yet to see an original idea from you. Hell, half the time you post a dupe of a Google dump here.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
19. Draconian penalties for minor infractions are hardly new.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 10:43 AM
Sep 2012

Neither is using an extreme position about a wedge issue for self promotion. Beck, Limbaugh, Westboro et al use it as a business model.

I bet you knocked over a table jumping at the chance to post that link.

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
9. Don't bother
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:59 AM
Sep 2012

it's just a bunch of anti gun rants. After checking it out the other day, I felt like I had to take a shower.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
11. He could at least be creative.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 01:12 PM
Sep 2012

I't doesn't make sense to drive traffic to three paragraphs of drivel cribbed from an assortment of various other blogs.

Sending people to no content just pisses them off.

aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
8. Guns are great for women when they are used to defend themselves from dangerous partners
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:51 AM
Sep 2012

Don't you agree?

aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
18. Its never too late to protect yourself.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 08:26 AM
Sep 2012

I can't believe you think there is nothing for a victim of partner abuse to do except die like Meleanie Hain.

There are a number of ways to protect yourself depending on the situation (i.e., leaving, restraining order, prosecution), but when sometimes the situation may call violence against an attacker.

I see we have fundamental difference: It is never to late to protect yourself from violence.
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