Visitor's gun discharged at St. Vincent's (hospital, FL)

[jpak]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/274535/423/Visitors-gun-accidentally-goes-off-at-St-Vincents

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- St. Vincent's Hospital in Riverside was on lockdown briefly late Thursday morning after the gun of a person visiting a hospital patient was discharged.

No one was hurt by the gun's discharge and the visitor did have a concealed weapons permit, according to Ilyssa Trussel with St. Vincent's.

A Jacksonville Sheriff's Office deputy who is normally on campus got to the room quickly and the situation was contained, Trussel said.

Melissa Bujeda, Public Information Officer with JSO, said the bullet went through a wall and into the shower. No one was injured.

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dumbass

yup

[holdencaufield]

1. "3 hurt as car crashes into hospital emergency room"

http://www.northjersey.com/news/state/3_hurt_as_car_crashes_into_hospital_emergency_room.html

We really need to pass some "common sense" motor vehicle laws. It appears from the article that the driver of the vehicle was licensed to drive and owned the car legally.

[slackmaster]

4. Drunk driver?

[COLGATE4]

2. Certainly shows why letting people carry guns

in places like hospitals is a great idea.

[trouble.smith]

9. I'll bet that the hospital didn't allow CCWs and the license holder was forced to handle the gun

in a manner that increased the likelihood of a negligent discharge. A gun left in its holster doesn't go off by itself. period. When people are forced to pull their guns out to comply with those pesky "thou shall not possess a weapon here" signs; however, the chances of having an accidental discharge increase.

[ManiacJoe]

13. See post #12.

The patient fired the shot, not the CCW-ing visitor.

[trouble.smith]

15. ah. it's a simple case of stupidity then.

[ellisonz]

16. "was forced"

I think you mean chose to

[trouble.smith]

17. chose what, to obey the law?

I didn't know there was such a choice. It doesn't apply in this case anyways.

[ellisonz]

18. I'm having trouble following your reasoning here, Smith.

You're saying that this fool did not have a choice in not carrying a weapon in a dangerous manner in a hospital? BTW - toting is sadly still legal in Florida hospitals.

[trouble.smith]

19. just making an observation about the dangers of complying with signage.

Sounds like that's less of an issue in Florida than it is here in Ohio. Here in Ohio, Hospital security guards don't even carry guns from what I have seen. You can generally be confident that the only people with guns in Ohio hospitals are criminals in fact which is surprising considering the drugs you can find in even a small hospital.

[Warren Stupidity]

26. Even for the gungeon your reasoning here is stunning.

Try this out: don't take your stupid gun into the hospital. See how that works out better? Nobody discharges anything except perhaps a defibrillator.

[trouble.smith]

29. I don't because it's illegal to do so here in Ohio

If it were legal I would though because I don't like pulling it out of its holster and leaving it in a car in order to comply with signs because that increases the chances of an accidental discharge as well as the chances of a criminal getting their hands on a firearm. Guns don't go off in their holsters, they go off when you handle them for whatever reason which is what happened in this case; however, this person wasn't complying with any regulations, they were just being stupid. In Ohio, we reduce the incudence of unsafe dumbasses from carrying CCWs with firearms safety courses which I find to be a perfectly reasonable thing given the number of dumbasses out there. It's all very logical actually but I understand what you're implying, don't carry a gun at all and that won't happen, right?

[COLGATE4]

20. Do you have any facts to back up that

speculation or are you just pulling it out of.....?

[trouble.smith]

21. This is the internet, I reserve the right to speculate until all the facts come in.

and pulling your gun out to comply with signage is dangerous which was really my only point. Now go brush your teeth.

[COLGATE4]

22. 'My mind is made up -

don't confuse me with any facts'. I've rarely seen such forceful logic on these boards. Next time try reading the fucking article before 'speculating on the internet'.

[COLGATE4]

31. Only when responding to assholes...

[ileus]

5. Proper holster....probably IWB and uncomfortable

so he/she was dicking with it.

OWB is the place for me....

[GreenStormCloud]

6. There are about eight million people with a CCW.

A few are going to do something stupid. So what?

[Atypical Liberal]

7. Yes, this CCW permit holder was a dumbass. What is your point?

Are you trying to insinuate that this sort of behavior is common among CCW permit holders?

[ManiacJoe]

8. Patients on meds should not be playing with guns.

Those carrying guns not on their person should not leave the bags where others can get into them.

[petronius]

10. Yep. Seems to demonstrate the lower desirability of any form of carry that

involves an unattached bag to contain the firearm. Especially something that is habitually set down, like a purse...

[oneshooter]

11. I am a diabetic and take my meds daily.

Are you saying that I should not be allowed to posses firearms?

[ManiacJoe]

12. You misread something.

The article states that the hospital patient was not in a clear state of mind (suggesting he was on mind altering drugs). He took the gun out of the visitor's purse, was playing with it, and fired the shot into the wall.

That would seem to not describe your situation.

[oneshooter]

23. "Patients on meds should not be playing with guns."

That is what you wrote.
That is what I read.

A plain statement with no variances added.

[ManiacJoe]

24. Your description says you are not a hospital patient.

I certainly did not mean to imply anything about maintenance meds.

[oneshooter]

25. I probably knew that, but after Hoyt saying the same thing

I get a little touchy about it.

Hoyt meant ALL people on meds, irregardless of type.

[GreenStormCloud]

14. Guns do not belong in purses.

The CCWer had the gun in her purse and left it unattended. If a person carries a gun it should always be carried on the person so it is always under their control.

[Politicalboi]

27. We need insurance laws for these assholes

If you can't go anywhere without your little gun, then we should make it a law that if you carry in city limits, you MUST have insurance for your paranoia. Is it worth $100 a month to carry it?

[friendly_iconoclast]

30. Won't fly- See bans on poll taxes, also...

Minneapolis Star vs. Minnesota Department of Revenue.