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tech3149

(4,452 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:06 PM Oct 2018

Is the F 35 really worth it? Or even needed?

The end of last month we heard that the F35 had flown its first combat mission. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/09/27/f-35-flies-first-combat-mission-in-afghanistan/ Our great 5G fighter/bomber/whatever was victorious on its mission against the most modestly equipped adversary on the planet. No doubt a PR stunt to sell it in the budget debates.
The next day we hear that our great 5G fighter crashed in South Carolina and is a total loss of $115M. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-south-carolina-crash-military/f-35-fighter-jet-crashes-in-south-carolina-pilot-ejects-idUSKCN1M82H2
The entire project has been a clusterfuck that reveals the corruption of the entire procurement process.

As far as if it is needed, I am of the opinion that we don't have any state level adversaries that are that serious a threat because of global economic entanglement. Having worked on publicly funded projects I've seen first hand the vanity of officials distorting their judgment to accept some gold plated widget because it seemed impressive.
I'd rather have a thousand A10s than 100 F35s. Give me the weapons I need today and prove to me that your wonder weapon is needed or worth the cost before I put down my green.

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Is the F 35 really worth it? Or even needed? (Original Post) tech3149 Oct 2018 OP
No and No Sancho Oct 2018 #1
I agree. saidsimplesimon Oct 2018 #2
Chinese already copied it.. Historic NY Oct 2018 #3
Absolutely, yes. awesomerwb1 Oct 2018 #4
until it's not YOHABLO Oct 2018 #5
Uhhm.... awesomerwb1 Oct 2018 #6
The USMC, as well as UK/Italian/Spanish navies need it. Everyone else no. Angleae Oct 2018 #7

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
2. I agree.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:13 PM
Oct 2018

I will add militarytimes to my reading list. I have been following procurement stories on Janes for a while now.

Angleae

(4,480 posts)
7. The USMC, as well as UK/Italian/Spanish navies need it. Everyone else no.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 06:19 AM
Oct 2018

The USMC, UK, Italy, and Spain need it to replace their broken down/worn out harriers (and in the case of the UK, non-existant) which there is no other alternative other than scrapping their carriers.

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