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'5 Stages of Black Manhood'
http://www.ebony.com/news-views/5-stages-of-black-manhood
Of course, there isnt a single narrative, one that will definitively place all the experiences of Black men into a neat package for a curious public. However, there are commonalities, uniting factors that can help those who will never be Black men or will come into scant contact with Black men to get a general sense of what shapes the lives of Black men. Theres the hope that, perhaps, the more the world knows about us, the fewer Trayvons there will be. A prayer set out into the darkness, no doubt, but that in itself is a part of the Black male experience.
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How can you not be angry when it seems like every other week youre learning the name of another brother youll never meet, for all the wrong reasons? Trayvon Martin. Sean Bell. Amadou Diallo. Abner Louima. Ramarley Graham. Oscar Grant. James Byrd. Troy Davis. James Anderson. Their names make it into the news and a familiar sense of pain and rage settles in, because the story never changes.
Really interesting and powerful read.
d_r
(6,907 posts)I can understand parts of it. Not all of course but parts.
I keep thinking of this, it never really made sense to me and I still can't figure it out.
Back in college in the 1980s, I had this fraternity brother - a good, nice guy but really mouthy talky. Whenever he said hello to this one guy, another fraternity brother, he would always say something like "Hey _____, my black brother" or "you fine African-American man" or whatever. Constantly, every day. It really started to annoy me. Finally I said something like "Dude, why do you always tell him he's black? You think he hasn't realized? You think he doesn't see the mirror?"
But the thing is, I don't think the white kid really meant anything hurtful pr even annoying at all, he was just a dumb ass. He really liked the other guy, genuinely, and the other guy put up with it because he liked him too. I think a lot of stuff is just because people are stupid, they are trying to be friendly in their own mind but they say something because they don't know any better. From the other side, you hear this kind of stuff over and over it is like this constant thing and you have to take it in. I don't know, 25 years later I still haven't figured it out.
Number23
(24,544 posts)I agree with you that the white kid probably meant nothing by it and was just being a smart ass.
But one thing I've found regarding racist/racially clueless/offensive comments is how people behave AFTER they'd been told that something they've said is racist/racially clueless/offensive etc.
If someone doubles, triple down after being told that something they've said fits any of the criteria above and then claims that the person doing the responding is just being "too sensitive," then that makes the comments immediately circumspect in my book. From the looks of what you've said, the two guys seemed like friends and were able to work things out (hopefully). So one would have the ability to genuinely gauge if the other was being "too sensitive" or not.
At the end of the day, people have the choice to decide whether they can grow from a situation -- no matter how uncomfortable/painful it may be -- or not. Those who clog their ears and say that everyone who looks at them cross-eyed after they've said something untoward or offensive are just being "too sensitive" are clearly not interested in growing.
they were friends, both good guys. When I popped that off the poor dude was humiliated, he just never thought about it. That's a good point about growth.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)We call this resistance. Its not simply a matter of surviving. This is how we learn to live.
That's the one where find just how "solid" our fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins and sons are.
I'm very lucky to have those men woven into my life story.