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4lbs

(6,824 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:08 AM Aug 2015

Black man armed with metal pipe..... subdued by San Diego Police, NOT KILLED!

In what is become rarer today, a black male, unarmed or armed, is actually disarmed and subdued by the police and not shot!

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http://www.cbs8.com/story/29857596/man-arrested-after-standoff-with-police-downtown


{ The article doesn't state he is black, but the accompanying video shows him}


LITTLE ITALY (CBS 8) - A possible transient carrying a metal rod was arrested in Little Italy Saturday.

San Diego police said the man was acting erratically when they approached him around 8:50 a.m. at the Farmer's Market in the 1600 block of State Street.

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For about 45 minutes multiple San Diego Police officers had the man surrounded. The area in front of the Barbery barber shop was blocked off to patrons as many stood and watched.

"We attempted to establish communication with him, we asked him repeatedly to drop the weapon, we didn't want him to get hurt, we didn't want to get hurt," said Lt. Kevin Mayer.

Police employed a number of resources, including two dogs and shields.

Meanwhile, the man kept talking to himself until finally police used pepper spray and then took him down before placing handcuffs on him. He was put on a stretcher, where he kept moving his feet as he was placed inside an ambulance.

According to police, the man was taken to a hospital to be evaluated for possible mental health issues.

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You mean, it's actually possible to subdue a suspect, armed or unarmed, without having to shoot them?
The police can employ pepper spray on a suspect and not a hail of bullets?
Wow, who would have thought such a situation wouldn't ultimately require a visit from the county coroner?

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Black man armed with metal pipe..... subdued by San Diego Police, NOT KILLED! (Original Post) 4lbs Aug 2015 OP
How sad that it's news when an AA doesn't get killed. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2015 #1
Well... malokvale77 Aug 2015 #2
IMHO the pepper spray was the way to go. Glassunion Aug 2015 #6
A little bit of overkill. ncjustice80 Aug 2015 #3
That only really works in the movies. Glassunion Aug 2015 #5
I remember that video, in this country that guy would have been killed nt steve2470 Aug 2015 #8
Holy shit, it IS possible! NuclearDem Aug 2015 #4
K&R. Glassunion Aug 2015 #7
Should, is right. And BLM is working to make that happen, check my sig for link to randys1 Aug 2015 #9

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
6. IMHO the pepper spray was the way to go.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:10 PM
Aug 2015

It gave the officers the opportunity to get a hold of him.

I watched the video at the link, and I did not see the dogs being used.

ncjustice80

(948 posts)
3. A little bit of overkill.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:28 AM
Aug 2015

How much money do we dump in their training and they don't have some kind of judo chop to knock a metal pipe or knife out of some homeless guys hands?

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
5. That only really works in the movies.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:07 PM
Aug 2015

There really is no magical one-size-fits-all "judo chop" out there to disarm someone with a knife or metal pipe.

IMHO this is how the police should work. The guy with the pipe was arrested and taken to the hospital for evaluation. No one else went to the hospital. In a perfect world, this is how violent encounters should end.

In the UK, where the vast majority of officers do not carry firearms, they have similar tactics.

Here is a video where a person was being violent and threatening with a machete. It took 30+ officers, some pepper spray, and a riot shield to stop this man, and get him to the hospital for help.


Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
7. K&R.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:12 PM
Aug 2015

This is how it should work for everyone in this country.

They somehow can pull it off in other countries without shooting the person 65 times. I think we can too.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
9. Should, is right. And BLM is working to make that happen, check my sig for link to
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 12:51 PM
Aug 2015

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