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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:49 PM Sep 2015

I'm angry...

I could post something said in anger right now, but I usually take time to calm down, think about what I want to say and write it very, very carefully, simply because I don't want any misunderstandings about what I've just said.

Things have been going on, against members that I regard as friends and I feel that I haven't said enough about that.

Time for a change.

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I'm angry... (Original Post) MrScorpio Sep 2015 OP
I'll see your anger and raise you a furious Warpy Sep 2015 #1
I dont know how you show such patience and reason in the face of such randys1 Sep 2015 #2
Count me among the rightiously pissed off. n/t TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #3
Count me in. leftofcool Sep 2015 #4
I'm angry too, for Bravenak and 1SBM and KMOD and the entire PoC community on DU steve2470 Sep 2015 #5
+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2015 #10
Cleaned up fast or there will be a lot of people leaving. brush Sep 2015 #33
Count me in too. GitRDun Sep 2015 #6
+1 DoBotherMe Sep 2015 #14
I am furious. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #7
Man oh man it is uphill both ways isn't it? redwitch Sep 2015 #8
I'm with you. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2015 #9
I'm with you, too. geardaddy Sep 2015 #11
+1 kajilion BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #12
I'm there with you lunamagica Sep 2015 #13
Agreed on all points riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #15
There are lots of disruptors here now .... Historic NY Sep 2015 #16
Yep. nt SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #26
My Ignore List sharp_stick Sep 2015 #17
it angers me too. we're all democrats. why DesertFlower Sep 2015 #18
I'm Not Surprised. I Wish I Was. lib87 Sep 2015 #19
Something weird is going on here. I've never seen this before. yardwork Sep 2015 #20
I'm all for that... MrScorpio Sep 2015 #21
Yes, and I think that jurors should be transparent too. yardwork Sep 2015 #22
Yep. I've long suspected that much of the ugliness manifested by "Bernie supporters" is tblue37 Sep 2015 #28
Definitely. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #29
I'm extraordinarily Pissed, too. Cha Sep 2015 #23
And where do find this "Transparency Page"??? Gloria Sep 2015 #24
Click on a users name in a thread. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #25
Not the first time for a purge.... nt SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #30
K&R for visibility. Be careful, please. Some people are clearly on the hunt. nt tblue37 Sep 2015 #27
I would hope the jury service would not falter to opinions but to valid reasons just as we would Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #31
I'm livid. We are experiencing a travesty. kwassa Sep 2015 #32
I am both angry and sickened with what is happening to the members here... Spazito Sep 2015 #34
I'm maybe allowed to post here - bravenak is my dear friend. raven mad Sep 2015 #35

Warpy

(111,138 posts)
1. I'll see your anger and raise you a furious
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:51 PM
Sep 2015

because such good people have been targeted, people who weren't afraid to challenge the rest of us to see things from a different viewpoint.

Of course, that's why they were targeted.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. I dont know how you show such patience and reason in the face of such
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:51 PM
Sep 2015

horrific treatment, not necessarily at DU but in general.

DU has it's share of racist assholes for sure, but I dont know how you and others are able to reign in what has to be outright fury.

I look forward to everything you have to say.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
5. I'm angry too, for Bravenak and 1SBM and KMOD and the entire PoC community on DU
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:02 PM
Sep 2015

DU needs to be radically reformed and cleaned up ASAP.

sheshe2

(83,647 posts)
7. I am furious.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:11 PM
Sep 2015

After last night the story continues. That is three juries and Gawd knows how many other alerts in a group talking about there members being alert stalked. Do people see the irony here?

here... another alert in AA. This one survived.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118724750#post65

Thanks MrScorpio.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
16. There are lots of disruptors here now ....
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:04 PM
Sep 2015

its like a feeding frenzy from these neophytes. There needs to be a game change and the two top dogs better think about it.....

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
17. My Ignore List
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:04 PM
Sep 2015

and trashed group list have never been longer. There are some members here who's vile garbage just isn't worth the aggravation.

lib87

(535 posts)
19. I'm Not Surprised. I Wish I Was.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:19 PM
Sep 2015

A forum full of non-black democrats...it's not surprising at all the way some members are retaliating against the minority members who have the audacity to speak their minds.

This threatening letter business because a member speaks her mind? That's crossing the line. Forum admin know how disgusting the tone has been on this board and what happens next will determine where the admin stands on this targeting of Black members.

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
20. Something weird is going on here. I've never seen this before.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:33 PM
Sep 2015

We've had flame wars and big problems over the years on DU, but this is unusual.

I just served (again) on a jury for a totally ridiculous, uncalled-for alert. The post in question was not a personal attack, was nothing at all but an observation, a statement of an opinion, that somebody took to be some kind of "attack" against Bernie Sanders supporters.

I don't know what's going on, but there seems to be a group of trolls targeting DU.

I believe that making the names of alerters and jurors transparent might solve the problem.

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
22. Yes, and I think that jurors should be transparent too.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:40 PM
Sep 2015

My personal opinion is that a small group of right-wing trolls have targeted DU to cause trouble. Most of them are posing as Bernie supporters. I think that the purpose is to create divisiveness among Democrats, and perhaps they are hoping to make Bernie look bad. Typical disruptor behavior. I notice that it's getting worse as Bernie does better in the polls.

If I can make a suggestion, based on my own prior experience being in the middle of flamewars on DU (I learned this the hard way) - the trolls will be defeated if we all refuse to get angry with one another. I've never actually achieved this goal, but it's worth a try.

tblue37

(65,218 posts)
28. Yep. I've long suspected that much of the ugliness manifested by "Bernie supporters" is
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:43 PM
Sep 2015

actually ratf***ing by RWers.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
29. Definitely.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:43 PM
Sep 2015

Both juries and alerters not being anonymous (or at least being tracked for abuse) and the possibility of the "supporters" (I always put it in quotes) being rw disruptors.

(I'd like to think so - it beats thinking that so many "supporters" really are such jerks.)

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
24. And where do find this "Transparency Page"???
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:52 PM
Sep 2015

I've now been "hidden" once even my chosen group by trolls.

DU is undergoing a purge..,

Ugh!!

sheshe2

(83,647 posts)
25. Click on a users name in a thread.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:32 PM
Sep 2015

That will take you to there profile page. If transparency has a yellow block click on it. You can then read the hidden posts.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
31. I would hope the jury service would not falter to opinions but to valid reasons just as we would
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:51 PM
Sep 2015

Like to be considered when we are alerted. Indicating by poster a choice in candidates is not a true alert and those should have a way to trash the alert and time out for the alerted to alert again. I would like to have a comment as to our decisions for voting to hide or leave by juries, it would give reasoning behind their votes.

Spazito

(50,151 posts)
34. I am both angry and sickened with what is happening to the members here...
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:13 PM
Sep 2015

the stalking via alerts and now in real life is beyond the pale. The admins have to do something although, given how many DUers, both from the AA group and in general, have already left, it might already be too late to fix a system that is completely broken, imo.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
35. I'm maybe allowed to post here - bravenak is my dear friend.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 01:06 PM
Sep 2015

And fellow Alaskan.

I'm pretty pissed, as well. I thought at least DU was beyond this kind of crap. Evidently not. MrScorpio, I've always held you in the highest regard - as well as a bunch of other DU'ers. I hate this stuff. Hate it.

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