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Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:27 PM

Just Had My First Ever Post Hidden

Late last night, I posted a YouTube video in V&M called "Criminals Gone Wild UNCUT". Somebody alerted on it, saying that it was "out-right racist", and the jury voted 5-1 to hide it. I don't understand at all how that video was "racist", and my intent of posting it was not racial. All the video was about was showing a few crimes happening live and unscripted, and providing the perspectives of the people in the video on why they chose a life of crime. That's it.
At the risk of sounding biased about my own post, I have to say that the jury dropped the ball on this one.

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Reply Just Had My First Ever Post Hidden (Original post)
Jamaal510 Feb 2014 OP
yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #1
TheCowsCameHome Feb 2014 #2
Vox Moi Feb 2014 #3
Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #8
bluedigger Feb 2014 #4
murielm99 Feb 2014 #5
Warpy Feb 2014 #6
Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #9
1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #7
Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #10
jaysunb Feb 2014 #11
1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #12
jaysunb Feb 2014 #14
1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #15
JI7 Feb 2014 #13
JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #16

Response to Jamaal510 (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:32 PM

1. It gets easier

 

lol. Just kidding. I actually have had 2 hidden in the last 90-days but none prior too that. I guess the jury is a bit more strict these days.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:37 PM

2. Yeah, you just can't figure.

You never know who's out there waiting to push the stupid alert button.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:39 PM

3. Too bad I can't see that post.

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Response to Vox Moi (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:47 PM

8. All it was

was just a video called "Criminals Gone Wild Uncut". It's on YouTube if you want to search for it, but it is roughly an hour long.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:57 PM

4. Jury results

On Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:01 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Criminals Gone Wild UNCUT
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017176076

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is out-right racist

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:13 AM, and the Jury voted 5-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: This video has been out for a while. I don't think the person who produced it is racist, but it does promote racist stereotypes and it's fake besides. It seems over-the-top and I'm voting to hide it for that reason.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.


I was Juror #2. The results didn't surprise me. Better luck next time.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:11 PM

5. I have had a couple hidden.

It was a long time ago, but it stung.

There is one person here, who am am almost certain is a troll. Not everyone agrees with me. I challenge her posts. She is good at snark and sarcasm with everyone else, but the minute you answer her back, she bawls loudly and alerts. She is so skilled at using the rules here, that I am almost certain she has had professional troll training.

Don't worry. If your intentions here are good, you will be fine. A few nut cases slip in, especially at primary time. Live and learn, and have a good time learning and sharing at DU.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:27 PM

6. I saw part of it before exhaustion took over

and the vast majority of the criminals were black. However, 100% of the criminals were poor and that was the most unfair thing of all.

I'm not afraid of the neighborhood thugs. They can be bought off with the cash in my pocket, usually $20 or less. It's the guys in the three piece suits and designer shoes who have always ripped me off by depressing my wages, probably to the tune of nearly a million bucks over my working lifetime.

Should your post have been hidden? Hell no, it was instructive, the "bad" guys telling the filmmaker that they'd worked jobs, been paid starvation wages, and gotten nowhere. There is a hell of a lot of that going around.

I just wanted to reach through the screen and shake some sense into them, let them know that crimes against the rich would pay a hell of a lot better, that as long as they continued to prey on people in their own neighborhood, they were going to stay poor.

I'm sorry your post was hidden. I certainly wouldn't have voted to hide had i been on the jury.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:52 PM

9. Agreed.

"I'm not afraid of the neighborhood thugs. They can be bought off with the cash in my pocket, usually $20 or less. It's the guys in the three piece suits and designer shoes who have always ripped me off by depressing my wages, probably to the tune of nearly a million bucks over my working lifetime.
I just wanted to reach through the screen and shake some sense into them, let them know that crimes against the rich would pay a hell of a lot better, that as long as they continued to prey on people in their own neighborhood, they were going to stay poor."

For some reason, many of them like to find victims in low-income areas. It makes no sense to me.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:37 PM

7. I suspect that it was hidden because ...

 

seeing Black folks talking about crime (whether the crimes or the interviews were stage, or not) makes people uncomfortable.

I do not/did not find the film to be racist ... But I could see how it could be used to perpetuate racial stereotypes with that small minded minority that would believe that all Black folks (and the occasional white) are criminals.

But the fact is, there ARE Black folks that live the criminal life ... they are far out numbered by those Black males that proudly live the square life; but there are criminals none the less.

But that said, people should REALLY listen to what these folks are saying ... They are disenfranchised, feel shut out and see no real alternative survival options.

40 years of American myth building, built these desperate souls.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:58 PM

10. Exactly,

"But that said, people should REALLY listen to what these folks are saying ... They are disenfranchised, feel shut out and see no real alternative survival options."

and this was the main reason why I posted it. Maybe it was a mistake on my part to not anticipate some alert-happy DUers and to not state the reason why I posted the video.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 05:02 PM

11. +1

I didn't see anything racist about the video...but there are people that feel they have tell US what's what. SMH

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Response to jaysunb (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 05:11 PM

12. Maybe that's why I didn't find it racist ...

 

I know a bunch of folks, personally, that very well could have been interviewed.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 10:14 PM

14. YouTube has created an outlet for many

views of our community, not to mention a lot of youngsters of Spike Lee ability (w/out the education.) Their subject matter is raw and reflects an unvarnished look at black life in it's entirety. And, I think that actually offends some of our white brethren, because of the guilt it evokes and desire to look the other way. That Jamal was unlucky to find 5 of these folks at one place and time probably says something even bigger to me.
Subconscious (societal) racism has a way of showing itself when truth is told. Passive racism reacts to anything that may assign guilt . Denial sees nothing and would prefer that others don't , as well.
We have yet to overcome...but the process continues.

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Response to jaysunb (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 07:05 AM

15. So true ...

 

but what I reaaly should have said was:

Maybe that's why I didn't find it racist ... I unashamedly know a bunch of folks, personally, that very well could have been interviewed.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Original post)

Mon Feb 17, 2014, 08:48 PM

13. i didn't see your post but it is sometimes a good idea to post a description

 

or just why you are posting it and what you want people to see.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Original post)

Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:32 PM

16. Wear it

As a badge of honor - and take comfort in the fact that you are getting some love thrown at you in HOF.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125537310

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