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Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:10 PM

Stop me if you've heard this story before:

Black Indianapolis man shot by cops after calling police to report robbery

Few cases typify everything that is wrong with gun rights, police brutality and racial profiling like this one.

Early Tuesday in Indianapolis, an African-American woman was being carjacked in front of her home in her working class neighborhood. She ran back in the house, told her husband, who is also black, and they called the police to report the robbery. That seemed to be the right and safe thing to do.

As the police pulled up, the husband, who was later identified as 48-year-old Carl Williams, opened the garage to their home and was immediately shot in the gut by police.

They claim they believed he was the robber and that because he had a firearm of his own, he was shot in self-defense. Officials identified the officer who shot Williams as nine-year veteran cop Christopher Mills.

He, of course, was not the robber. In fact, police have yet to even say if they caught the robber. Since they dusted the car for fingerprints, it appears that the actual man committing a crime got away and the man who wanted to protect his wife and family was instead shot and currently fighting for his own life in the hospital.

"I think that's really crazy. What do we have, trigger-happy police officers out here now?" asked Angela Parrot, who lives in the neighborhood told the Indy Star.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-black-man-shot-cops-calling-report-robbery-article-1.2762748

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Reply Stop me if you've heard this story before: (Original post)
Blue_Tires Aug 2016 OP
mothra1orbit Aug 2016 #1
Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #2
JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #3
Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #4
JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #5
LanternWaste Aug 2016 #6
Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #7

Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:19 PM

1. Was the cop white?

Too many white cops imo are scared shitless of black men and would rather shoot them--in the gut, no less, an injury that's usually fatal--than try to understand what's going on. I don't know what we can do about this, but I think it might be helpful to assign beat cops to black neighborhoods with the assignment of meeting and befriending the families--even the young black men!--who live there. That kind of fear usually comes from unfamiliarity.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:31 PM

2. Cops are paranoid sometimes.

And it's not always unjustified.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/09/gentle-georgia-man-accused-of-ambushing-police-officer-following-fake-911-call/
When police in Valdosta, Ga., received a report for a car break-in at a local apartment complex around 8 a.m. Friday, they thought it was a routine call.
But as soon as Officer Randall Hancock stepped out of his patrol car, police said, someone started shooting at him.
At least two bullets struck Hancock in his protective vest, but a third struck him underneath it, “in the abdomen area,” according to a statement from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
“Officer Hancock returned fire, striking the individual and stopping him from firing at him,” the statement said. “The individual was unknown to Officer Hancock at the time of the encounter.”
Investigators would later determine that the man behind the trigger was the same man who called 911 to report the break-in.


I'm NOT excusing the police in this case, especially without more information or body camera video, but why call the police and then openly have a gun in your hand? I'm white and I'd half-expect to get shot by cops around here if I did that. I could legally carry my loaded rifles here in Ohio, but you'll never see me do it unless I desire suicide by cops.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:18 PM

3. What does your link have to do with this

Because it DOES appear you came back here to defend a couple of dumb assed half wits.


Whatever the case, the violent encounter should help illuminate the very real fears so many black families have when calling the police. This family needed help. They wanted to report a crime in their neighborhood. The husband wanted to protect his wife. These are all very basic rights we have, but day after day we see that gun rights don't really apply equally to African-Americans.


his man did his JOB trying to protect the woman he LOVES.

Why is it so fucking hard for non black folks to understand that black men actually love and cherish and want to protect their 'woman'?

I don't get what this block is?

What is this mental block?

Just show EMPATHY for this woman whose protector is lying in a hospital.

She certainly can't expect the police to protect her . . . now can she? She's lucky they didn't chase her around her house and shoot her too.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:32 PM

4. I do have empathy. I'm very sorry that the man was shot!

I'm sorry for not making that clear in my post, but I sometimes assume people will take that for granted.

I personally wouldn't have a gun in my hand if I knew cops were on the way, at least not out in the open. I'd probably have the gun in hand inside a bedroom, looking outside for the arriving cops, and then put the gun away.

If the husband was shot immediately simply for holding a gun in his garage, it's an outrage. I hope there's video of it to clarify what happened.

My earlier post made reference to a cop being shot for responding to a similar 9-1-1 call. Why is that confusing?

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:41 PM

5. Confusing? Blue_Tires made the point in his op title

We are used to hearing about black people being shot for doing nothing wrong.


The cops - that's a one off. Your article is a one off.

The op is standard operating procedure in America.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:47 PM

6. Possibly because you're broadening a premise beyond its original scope.

 

"Why is that confusing?"

Possibly because you're broadening a premise beyond its original scope, and arguing an anecdotal point that was not made by anyone but you.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 25, 2016, 02:16 PM

7. Death by cop increases dramatically if you're armed, regardless of race.

I'm aware that African Americans are shot more frequently by cops, per capita, and that's not right.

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