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Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:32 AM

Segregation is dead, how long, how violent, how expensive is the funeral

Heard a paraphrase of James Baldwin on Morning Joe. The quote comes from Baldwin's essay on the Civil Rights Movement after his meeting with MLK, titled "The Dangerous Road Before Martin Luther King."

"King is entirely right when he says that segregation is dead. The real question which faces the Republic is just how long, how violent, and how expensive the funeral is going to be; and this question it is up to the Republic to solve, it is not really in King’s hands.

So my thought is, since racism is discussed casually these days in the media, I wonder if we at least will move to real discussions of not only merely dead but how to make it really and most sincerely dead? How long?

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Reply Segregation is dead, how long, how violent, how expensive is the funeral (Original post)
Kind of Blue Nov 2018 OP
greymattermom Nov 2018 #1
Kind of Blue Nov 2018 #2
brush Nov 2018 #3
Kind of Blue Nov 2018 #5
brush Nov 2018 #7
Kind of Blue Nov 2018 #8
lunasun Nov 2018 #4
Kind of Blue Nov 2018 #6

Response to Kind of Blue (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:34 AM

1. I'm a minority in my county

and I'm white. Things are fine, the job gets done. Let's go back to calling all groups who are less than half the population "minority". Language has meaning.

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:39 AM

2. I'm sorry but I don't understand your response.

I understand language has meaning but I'm not connecting the rest to that phrase.

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:47 AM

3. You're getting ahead of demographic trends. Whites won't be under 50%...

of the population for another 15-20 years or so.

After that we will be a truly minority majority country—unless you have some inside census data that it's already happened?

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Response to brush (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:11 AM

5. So you mean that we have to wait another 15-20 years

and to become minority majority to finally move past discussing the obvious, that segregation still exists and how to kill it? I didn't see the whole segment of the panel discussion but the Baldwin question of over 50 years ago just lingered.

I have no inside census data.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:20 AM

7. Of course we don't have to wait to fight against it, just stating demographic projections.

We've always known we have to use our heads to work around and outsmart the racists and racism in society.

We haven't waited and don't have to wait now.

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Response to brush (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:01 PM

8. Okay, thanks for your feedback.

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:11 AM

4. Maybe because you are not experiencing racism yourself everything looks fine to you . No problems

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Response to lunasun (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:14 AM

6. Thanks, lunasun. I thought that's what she meant

but wasn't sure because I can be inartful with words, too.

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