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Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 01:36 AM Jul 2012

Gloat Free Baseball Scores (Tuesday, July 3)

Baseball Scores

Brewers 13, Miami 12 (10 innings)
Nats 9, San Francisco
Pirates 8, Houston 7
at Atlanta 10, Cubs 3
Mets 11, Phillies 1
Rockies 3, Cardinals 2
Padres 9, Arizona 5
Dodgers 3, Reds 1

Other Scores

Cleveland 9, Angels 5
Twins 8, Tigers 6
Blue Jays 6,Royals 3
Rays 7, Yankees 4
White Sox 19, Texas 2
A's 3, Red Sox 2
Orioles 5, Mariners 4
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Gloat Free Baseball Scores (Tuesday, July 3) (Original Post) Jack Rabbit Jul 2012 OP
That was a lot of runs scored by the teams playing real baseball. madinmaryland Jul 2012 #1
Giants drop to 4-13 in Lincecum starts.. Upton Jul 2012 #2
Last night was a team disaster Auggie Jul 2012 #3
A team loss? Upton Jul 2012 #4
Mid-season, they're in first fucking place Auggie Jul 2012 #5
The only thing good about all this.. Upton Jul 2012 #7
I don't like calling Lincecum the #5 starter Auggie Jul 2012 #10
45-36. That puts the Giants a half game ahead of the Pirates. madinmaryland Jul 2012 #9
I'm so happy Bochy is not picking the All Stars this year Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #6
lol Upton Jul 2012 #8
Ryan Zimmerman after the game: Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #11

Upton

(9,709 posts)
2. Giants drop to 4-13 in Lincecum starts..
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 10:48 AM
Jul 2012

His ERA now 6.08. Through 9 road starts, the ERA is a shocking 8.45. The second highest Giants ERA through 9 away starts in 100 years.

This year, for whatever reason, he has become one of the worst pitchers in MLB. The Giants are 45-36 overall...meaning in non Timmy starts they're 41-23. Having to play that well to make up for Lincecum's failings is not sustainable.

Auggie

(31,061 posts)
3. Last night was a team disaster
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jul 2012

And will you please stop throwing Tim under the bus? You vote a struggling shortstop to the ASG but turn your back on a two-time Cy Young award-winner.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
4. A team loss?
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:59 AM
Jul 2012

While technically that's true. Tim gave up 7 ER in 3.1 IP...he didn't even give the team a chance.

It's sports Auggie. It's not about last year or any other year...for the Giants aren't going to be making the playoffs living off the past. Out of 103 pitchers, Lincecum is currently ranked 101st in ERA. 100th in WHIP.

Quality starts:

Vogelsong: 14

Cain: 11

Bumgarner: 10

Zito: 9

Lincecum: 4


I could go on and on with his numbers. They're horrendous. As is the team's record when he starts. There's obviously a problem, that isn't being worked out. Tim looks just as bad as at the beginning of the year. The entire team is being dragged down. How much longer does this have to go on?

Auggie

(31,061 posts)
5. Mid-season, they're in first fucking place
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 12:29 PM
Jul 2012

A long as Cain, MadBum, Vogelsong and Zito are steady they'll stay competitive.

I'll repeat: Tim is filling the role of the fifth starter. If he can give them five to six innings and keep the game close he's doing his job. Granted, last night was a set-back. But the whole team struggled too.

Bochy could juggle the starters after the All-Star game. Tim is scheduled to start this Sunday in Pittsburgh. Bochy could give him 6 to 9 days off with the break. Lincecum could start the 15th in temperate San Francisco or as late as the 18th in steamy Atlanta. Heck, with the extra day off on the 16th Bochy could even start him on the 22nd against the Phillies.

Rest and time to work out the kinks. Maybe what Tim needs.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
7. The only thing good about all this..
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jul 2012

is Lincecum supposedly left a 5 year 120 million deal on the table this past offseason. Imagine the uproar. We would be looking at the possibility of Zito #2. Or maybe Tim is going to return to his former self.

I just don't know what to think anymore. I've wondered about substance abuse for several years. His weight fluctuations are a concern. Maybe rest will help. I do know if Lincecum was pitching anywhere near his usual self, the Giants would have one of the best records in baseball and a nice comfortable lead in the NL West.

Great. now it's 6-3. Washington might just have the best team in the East.

Auggie

(31,061 posts)
10. I don't like calling Lincecum the #5 starter
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:23 PM
Jul 2012

I'm really pulling for him.

I don't think it's weed. Pretty frail guy -- maybe he pitched himself out? He certainly wouldn't be the first.

If he has, the question then is, can he adapt his way of pitching and remain semi-productive?

Totally agree about the contract. Though it made little sense to me from Tim's perspective. Maybe he sensed it last year? $22 million + is plenty to retire on in Seattle.

Kingofalldems

(38,361 posts)
6. I'm so happy Bochy is not picking the All Stars this year
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jul 2012

We will never forget 'Baby Hueygate' and the snubbing of a deserving Zimmerman.

Kingofalldems

(38,361 posts)
11. Ryan Zimmerman after the game:
Wed Jul 4, 2012, 02:28 PM
Jul 2012

'Hey Bochy, I just pounded your best pitcher. How you like me now? What was that?'

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