Ryan irked by Tebow questions

[madinmaryland]

08:04 AM ET 09.18 | For Rex Ryan, Tebowmania is becoming Te-dious. [Ryan] became agitated Monday when grilled about the Wildcat offense and Tim Tebow's role in it. In particular, Ryan became perturbed when he was grilled about his decision to pull Tebow in the third quarter [Sunday]. Tebow had just led the Jets to back-to-back first downs, but in a second-and-16 situation, Tebow headed back to the bench for starter Mark Sanchez, who had an awful day. As a reporter asked, "If Tebow can pass...," Ryan interjected, "He can pass," before allowing the question to continue. The coach also became defiant when asked about the Jets' sparse use of the Wildcat in their first two games.

Wonder where our resident Tebow fan is??

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/336473-ryan-irked-by-tebow-questions?xid=cnnbin

[joeybee12]

1. Eh, he made his own bed...they liked the media attention at first...

Now when it appears it was a stupid move (to the media, that is, we DU'ers knew this long ago) he gets alll pissy. Maybe Ryan should suck on some toes to calm himself down.

[trumad]

2. Tebow had one run for what---11 yards?

It was second and 16 for a reason- Pitt made the adjustment and you could immediately tell it would soon be 3rd and 25.

The Wildcat is dead in the NFL. The NFL Defenses has figured it out and can now contain it.

[JonLP24]

3. Just because defenses figure out how to defend it

doesn't mean it can't be effective. The first thing, when defenses practice against it, they're costing themselves time that can be used defending standard offenses. That alone is effective. Also, even if defenses know, teams can still use it effectively as a change of pace or catching the D off-guard.

Arizona ran two plays in the wildcat and both for first downs. First one was Patrick Peterson (fastest player on the team) taking the snap and running for about 15. Second time, he handed it off to LaRod Stephens-Howling (second fastest player on the team) for another first down. Both times it was 1st & 10.

I think when most teams have a wildcat package or a variation of it in their playbook shows it is anything but. Plus it's been around for 20 years, it just became popular around the league since Miami started the trend.

On edit - I think Tebow had back-to-back first down runs then a pitch put them in a second & 15. I think it's a stupid question the reporters are asking him because obviously in that situation you need to start passing and Sanchez is much better at that.

[trumad]

4. The Wildcat is not sustainable.

Trust me---I'm a Phins fan.

Ronnie Brown who is a true running back, ran it well for the first year, but then Defenses figured it out and stopped it.

If the Jets really think their success is predicated on the Wildcat--- they're in for a long long season.

[JonLP24]

5. You don't run it every play

Forcing the D to practice against it and using as a change of pace is how you have success with it. Defenses know how to defend against shotgun, but it doesn't mean you can't have success with the shotgun.

The Jets ran the wildcat quite often w/ Brad Smith the two years they went to the AFC Championship.

[Auggie]

6. I agree, JonLP24

Any wrinkle an offense can add is a plus. The key is being sure your own personnel are adept at running the play.

[trumad]

7. Oh come on---they went to the AFC championship because of the Wildcat?

Again---you do know I am a Phin fan and the Phins brought the wildcat back to life.

Hey it worked wonderfully for about 3 games until NFL defenses figured it out.

Why aren't they using it anymore?

Because it is unsustainable.

God what people wil say to support the most over-hyped player in NFL history.

[JonLP24]

8. I didn't say they went to the AFC Championship because of the wildcat

I said they used the wildcat successfully on their way to the AFC Championship. I'm not arguing it's the most important formation in an offenses arsenal, I'm arguing it can be used successfully.

The most successful thing about the Cardinals gaining 2 first downs on the Patriots w/ the wildcats is that the #1 pass D--Philadelphia is going to spend a portion this week practicing against it when they could be using that time to practicing against other standard formations which will be time wasted especially if the Cards don't use it once in the game against the Eagles.

[ProfessorGAC]

9. Did You Consider. . .

. . .that the game you're describing had the wildcat work because the opposition DIDN'T practice to defend it?

You're assuming a lot if you think that it worked because it forced teams to practice defending it, when it looked like it worked only because the opponent was unprepared.

It doesn't take that much to figure out a way to defense it, so it doesn't dilute practice schedules that much.

Your argument is self-defeating.
GAC

[JonLP24]

11. I think there is misunderstanding to what I'm saying

About the Patriots game, the announcers mentioned after the Peterson run that some player that I forgot who ran the Wildcat for the Pats in practice. Based on announcer's comments, Belichick was well versed in who the Cardinals are and he would know to practice against it since the Cards ran the wildcat w/ Peterson last year, w/ Antrell Rolle before he went to NYG. He also knew that the Cardinals lead the league in special teams blocks since 2009.

Anyways, what I'm saying is even though the wildcat can be defended doesn't mean you can't have success w/ the wildcat. The Cardinals showed that w/ 2 first down runs. The practice time success argument is unrelated to game-time success argument I'm making. I'm saying the success is teams practicing against it rather than focusing the entire time defending against 95% of what they'll see. I think that is a bigger success since the wildcat is rarely used. The Jets who everyone thought was going to be some full-time wildcat team only ran it for 3 plays last week.

I don't advocate using all the time but just enough so the defense is aware of it. W/ the theory of opportunity cost, instead of focusing all their attention on stopping standard formations, they use a portion to defend against the wildcat. I'd rather the team my team is facing to use whatever amount of time to practice against it so the team isn't as prepared as they could be defending anything else.

I hope I'm more clear now as that isn't what I'm assuming. It works best against unprepared defenses which causes the opponent D to practice against it which is a success IMO, especially if the team doesn't use it all in the game. It may not be much of a success given that you feel it doesn't take much practice time but this is a league where a few close games is the difference between a great and bad season so I'll take whatever margin my team can get.

[El Supremo]

10. He's gonna be in Vogue.

Now that's important!