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Auggie

(31,167 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 04:43 PM Mar 2015

New MLB Commissioner would eliminate defensive shifts to support more scoring

I'm surprised I'm the first to post this. It was reported end of January.

This is more horrible an idea than the DH ... and shocking, especially coming from the mouth of the baseball commissioner.

Where the fuck do they dig up these morons? First Selig. Now Manfred.

Cliff Corcoran of Sports Illustrated:

Rob Manfred officially became baseball’s 10th commissioner Sunday morning (Jan 25, 2015). In so doing, he stepped out of the shadow of predecessor Bud Selig and into a white-hot spotlight that immediately scalded him. In a SportsCenter interview with ESPN's Karl Ravech, Manfred stoked the ire of baseball fans by not only throwing his support behind the idea of pitch clocks -- which I’ve already railed against in this space -- but by saying that he would be willing to eliminate defensive shifts as a means of boosting offense.

That idea has been floated before, but to hear it come out of the commissioner's mouth is shocking. That’s not just because it would be incredibly difficult to codify (for reasons included below), but because, even more than the idea of pitch clocks, banning shifts would fly in the face of the very nature of the game.

If the first rule of hitting is Wee Willie Keeler’s maxim to “hit ‘em where they ain’t,” the first rule of defense is “play ‘em where they hit ‘em.” Defensive positioning is such a fundamental part of the sport at every level that it’s absurd to even consider limiting a team’s ability to position its fielders however it wants. At every level, fielders come way in for the weaker hitters, move way back for the big boppers and shift around for the rare lefty. Are we to believe that major league hitters need more protection from defensive strategies than Little Leaguers?

http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/01/26/rob-manfred-defensive-shifts-mlb-commissioner



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New MLB Commissioner would eliminate defensive shifts to support more scoring (Original Post) Auggie Mar 2015 OP
He should keep his grubby mitts off of defensive shifts. JeffHead Mar 2015 #1
Shifts are as core to the game as anything ... might as well ban the intentional walk too. Auggie Mar 2015 #2
That's "morans" KamaAina Mar 2015 #3
Nice post, Hitler! madinmaryland Mar 2015 #9
DH = Good. This = bad. El Supremo Mar 2015 #4
Was the commish high when he thought of this idea? nt Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #5
Hard to believe he wasn't ... Auggie Mar 2015 #6
Ummm... Fix The Stupid Mar 2015 #7
What an incredibly stupid idea JonLP24 Mar 2015 #8
isn't scoring counterproductive to their endeavor of shortening the games? frylock Mar 2015 #10
I think it's a great idea.... hughee99 Mar 2015 #11

JeffHead

(1,186 posts)
1. He should keep his grubby mitts off of defensive shifts.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 06:26 PM
Mar 2015

Baseball is a game of adjustments. Pitchers adjust and hitters adjust. The hitters need to adjust on this one. If the defense puts 3 guys on 1 side of the infield and 1 guy at shortstop I would bunt down the third base line every fucking time until they knock that shit off. Commissioner Manfred should leave well enough alone and let this iron itself out on its own, that is if most of the hitters swallow some pride and just "hit'em where they ain't"

Auggie

(31,167 posts)
2. Shifts are as core to the game as anything ... might as well ban the intentional walk too.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 06:41 PM
Mar 2015

They want more scoring! Doucebags. Why not move the fences in 50 feet and make foul balls no longer count as strikes ... make pitchers throw only fastballs ... eliminate one position player ... wtf else???



El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
4. DH = Good. This = bad.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 09:28 PM
Mar 2015

Fielders can play anywhere. That rule is as old as baseball. For an example. if a first baseman trades positions with an outfielder, they don't even have to tell the umpire. But they can't trade batting orders.

Auggie

(31,167 posts)
6. Hard to believe he wasn't ...
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:50 AM
Mar 2015

baseball hired an idiot. He certainly does not understand the game.

Fix The Stupid

(948 posts)
7. Ummm...
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:15 PM
Mar 2015

Shouldn't the commissioner of Baseball, actually, you know, have played baseball before?

Because an idea like this can only come from someone who does NOT know the game or has not played it.

Craziness.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. What an incredibly stupid idea
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 06:38 AM
Mar 2015

I'm one of those fans MLB is losing and this doesn't help bring me back in.

Why eliminate one of the few things left that impact strategy? Defensive shifts are part of the reason I still have an interest.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
11. I think it's a great idea....
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 05:18 PM
Mar 2015

If the new commissioner's goal is to make people pine away for the good old days of Bud Selig, something I wouldn't have even though possible last year.

Is this where baseball is going?

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