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bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 01:01 PM Jan 2012

On Kyle Williams, Billy Cundiff, and Becoming a Legendary Goat

On Kyle Williams, Billy Cundiff, and Becoming a Legendary Goat

The signature takeaway from yesterday's terrific NFC and AFC Championship Games — other than that, holy crap you guys, the Giants are in the Super Bowl — was the creation of two goats for the presumed ages. In New England's win over Baltimore, Ravens kicker Billy Cundiff missed a chip shot field goal that would have sent the game into overtime. In the Giants' win over the 49ers, kick return Kyle Williams fumbled two punts — one that bounced off his knee in the fourth quarter and one more traditionally taken away in overtime — that led to ten Giants points in a defensive struggle, including the game-winning Lawrence Tynes field goal. It's tough to be much more of a goat than that.
Thing is, though, both Cundiff and Williams — who, we didn't realize until this morning, is the son of Chicago White Sox general manager Kenny Williams — lack a crucial component in becoming historical, legendary, lifelong despised goats: They don't play for traditionally tortured franchises.
Last week, we talked about how all four teams in the conference championship games had a history of franchise success; three of the entrants (New York, New England, and Baltimore) had won titles in the last decade, and the other (San Francisco) had a lifetime 5-0 Super Bowl record. There was no chance of any of those teams having any sort of credible claim on being tortured, star-crossed, or somehow sadsack.
That's crucial to cementing goat status. Sports history's most famous goats are ones who somehow deny history, who cost their long-suffering fans the opportunity at oft-delayed redemption. You need to have a fanbase that's desperate for a championship, and to have you personally take that away from them, to achieve true rarefied goat status.http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/01/kyle-williams-billy-cundiff-and-legendary-goats.html


Get off their backs. You're going to blame a placekicker and a rookie reserve for their teams' failures?
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On Kyle Williams, Billy Cundiff, and Becoming a Legendary Goat (Original Post) bluedigger Jan 2012 OP
Evans is Baltimore's real goat... joeybee12 Jan 2012 #1
You're my hero joey JonLP24 Jan 2012 #5
Thanks! joeybee12 Jan 2012 #9
Yep. The Superbowl Was in His Arms. Yavin4 Jan 2012 #8
Jacoby Jones is a little bit happier this Monday morning. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2012 #2
Already forgotten! bluedigger Jan 2012 #3
who said it?... probably a lot of coaches, but OKNancy Jan 2012 #4
I don't blame Williams: Auggie Jan 2012 #6
If I were actor, Billy Crudup, I would avoid Baltimore for a while Yavin4 Jan 2012 #7

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
5. You're my hero joey
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jan 2012

Finally someone mentions that and not only this forum I've been reading, also ESPN chat/message boards with rare mentions.

Yavin4

(35,422 posts)
8. Yep. The Superbowl Was in His Arms.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:09 PM
Jan 2012

You're paid to make catches, difficult catches, game ending cathces. If you cannot do that, then you shouldn't be in the NFL.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
4. who said it?... probably a lot of coaches, but
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 03:13 PM
Jan 2012

Some coach said as I recall, that a team should never be put in the position of having a kicker win the game for you

OK... my sentence structure sucks, but you all get the idea.

Yavin4

(35,422 posts)
7. If I were actor, Billy Crudup, I would avoid Baltimore for a while
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:07 PM
Jan 2012

His last name is too similar. Better safe than sorry:

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