Note to NFL quarterbacks. If you want to be rich don't win a playoff game

[joeybee12]

That is all.

[exboyfil]

1. With the salary cap if you want to

be successful you might want to leave some of the money on the table for the rest of your offense. It seems like endorsement deals from the sacrifice and success might make up the difference anyway.

Also as Bud says, How many yachts can you water-ski behind?

[joeybee12]

2. Seven yachts, right?

Or is it a trick question?

[JonLP24]

3. I think it is a ridiculous talking point being pushed by ESPn

I saw Lions games last year and Stafford drove the team down the field multiple times. One time against the Colts he was telling his receivers over and over to "be smart" because they kept catching the ball and running up-field basically staying in bounds with the clock running.

I really think Russell Wilson & Andrew Luck should have asked for fully guaranteed contracts but they didn't so Stafford has the most guaranteed money. And besides the money isn't paid for what someone has done but based on their potential and you can't find many QBs better than Stafford at their stage in their careers.

[joeybee12]

4. How long has he been around?

IMHO he hasn't progress to an elite level and should have by this time. Over rated from the get go. Well, it's not my money.

[JonLP24]

5. He is the fastest to 30,000 yards and like I said I watched Lions games last season

and he has led so many 4th quarter drives

On December 11, 2016, Stafford broke Peyton Manning's NFL record of most fourth quarter comebacks in a season with eight. In his career, he has 25 such victories, the most in the NFL since he made his debut in 2009.[40] Stafford got the Lions to a 9-4 start but he suffered a hand injury in week 14 and lost the last 3 games of the season to finish 9-7. They managed to get the sixth seed in the playoffs, only to lose to the Seattle Seahawks 26-6 in the wild card round. Stafford ended the season with 4,327 passing yards, 24 touchdowns and 10 interceptions — his sixth consecutive season with at least 4,000 passing yards. He also reached the 30,000 career passing yards milestone.

[joeybee12]

7. All done in a very weak division

I stand my ground. Never an MVP, never gets a super bowl ring.

[JonLP24]

9. Maybe the Bears

But the Packers are always tough. A couple of times they played the Cardinals really tough in the playoffs and one of those was just 2 years ago. Minnesota started 6-0 and I know they fell off but they were really good 2 years ago (the year the Lions had a rough year to point Calvin Johnson retired). I expect the Vikings to trend to overall form and the Packers to be the Packers. Don't know the Bears situation but they could be tougher in a couple years with Trubisky who played well this preseason but not well enough to take the job from Mike Glennon.

[joeybee12]

12. I'm on my phone

Even if I agreed withyou, don't you think him being the highest paid player doesn't make aense? I wonder if this opens the floodgates

On my phone and can't simultaneously check atats, is what I meant

[JonLP24]

13. The floodgates have already been open

I think Tom Brady was the highest paid at $18 million then the following year Peyton Manning was highest paid with Denver, then Flacco become highest paid after winning Super Bowl. Drew Brees and Eli Manning are in there somewhere with receiving highest contract only for someone else to be the highest paid the following season.

[joeybee12]

14. Maybe rhis will speed up the flow from the floodgates. Nt

[ProfessorGAC]

19. Actually, The Bears Were OK But for The Last Couple Years

With them and the Packers, the North hasn't been all that weak except for 2015 & 2016
Nowhere near as week as AFC South and West until the Raiders got good again
Bears won't be good this year, but shouldn't be embarrassing like last year. Defense was putrid last year and crummy the year before

[JonLP24]

20. I think they always been better than the AFC East top to bottom

Last year actually the Dolphins and Bills were good but usually at best they have a #2 team but mostly in "rebuilding" mode.

I think you're right about the Bears.

On edit: Now the AFC East has Jay Cutler Actually Cutler is not a bad backup to have.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. Getting Back To This Late

Sorry, Jon, just saw this now.

Cutler is pretty unfairly maligned. Did a lot of charity work around Chicago, but didn't have a camera crew in tow to show off.

He was also a better QB than most thought. After the knee sprain in the NFC Championiship Game (Yeah, the Bears got to the NFCC with him at QB) the outcry from has been and never was QB's on ESPN made him into everyone's mule to kick.

The litany of bad to mediocre QB's since McMahon went on for 20 years around here.

Then the guy isn't Tom Brady or Joe Montana, and every mistake was the Cuban Missile Crisis.

In a few of those years, the D was so bad he took chances because they could only win a game by running up pinball scores.

I think he'll be ok in Miami.

[JonLP24]

22. I agree but I have always been not a Cultler fan

Even before he went to Chicago when he was still at Denver.

[underpants]

6. I agree. He's the only thing consistent at that mess of an organization

They've been a mess for years. From the Matt Millen debacle to having your two best players ever (Sanders and Megatron) both just bailing it's been a crap hole for a long time.

The stat I heard yesterday was that Stafford has more 4th quarter comebacks than any other active QB - Brady Rogers Manning etc. Staffird may not be an "elite QB" but he's definitely in the top 3rd and without him they'd have never even sniffed the playoffs.

[joeybee12]

8. In a weak division

And spending all that money on him doesn't leave much to spread around
Even if he's worth it, and I will never agree that he ia, it doesn't make sense not to start building up the other positions

[underpants]

10. Autocorrect kicked my butt on that one

I get your point - other than GB that whole division is a cluster - but I'm siding with keeping an above average QB as opposed to a clipboard guy. You have no hope of winning anything without a good QB.

[joeybee12]

11. What Stafford has going for him is he's decent

And even decent quarterbacks are rare these days. He had the upper hand in negotiations

[mythology]

18. Compared to the murder's row that is the AFC East?

Clearly it's much better to get your quarterback to go into business with an utter fraud and pay him that way. It's the Patriots' method with Brady. They pay to send their players to the TB12 physical therapy center. Hopefully none of their players go to TB12 for cancer or AIDs or Parkinson's or MS as Brady's business partner and health guru might try to sell them some of his snake oil, or the snake oil he sold that he claimed would prevent concussions or more of his unlicensed physical therapy.

It was very tempting to throw a rock through their window today. As somebody who has benefited greatly from medical science and as somebody who has seen people recover from cancer do to real medicine, it makes me sick thinking about frauds like Alex Guerrero and Tom Brady selling bullshit instead of real medicine. People die from scum like that.

[world wide wally]

15. He engineers so many 4th quarter comebacks because they are always losing

[joeybee12]

16. Excellent point

[bluedigger]

17. Best QB Detroit has had ever.

Write the check.