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Mosby

(16,295 posts)
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 01:43 PM Sep 2017

Bad judging is still a problem boxing can't afford

LAS VEGAS -- We were supposed to get a winner and a loser Saturday night.

That's the way big-time sports are supposed to work. There's a coldhearted beauty in that steel scoreboard sitting at the end of the field or hanging above the court or the ice. It doesn't have any feelings or emotions or biases or visual impairments. You get exactly what you deserve at the end of the day.

But boxing, as we sadly found out again on Saturday, doesn't work that way.

Following a classic 12-round battle between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin that most observers thought Golovkin won, the fight was ruled a draw thanks to one of the worst scorecards in the history of a sport littered with them.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/20730174/bad-judging-problem-boxing-afford

I had golovkin winning 9 rounds, and the numbers back me up. I think the golovkin team may have known the fight was going to be fixed if there was not a knockout, it explains why golovkin started scrapping with canelo the last couple rounds to try for a ko when he could have just coasted, knowing he was going to win on points.

This was the FIRST pay per view I bought in my entire life, I won't get suckered again. Fucking assholes, I feel like I got scammed,the fight wasn't even close, golovkin landed nearly 200 more punches.

Eta it wasnt just one scorecard, the guy who gave canelo 6 rounds was also a corrupt piece of shit just like Byrd.



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Bad judging is still a problem boxing can't afford (Original Post) Mosby Sep 2017 OP
I blame it on the boxing gods JonLP24 Sep 2017 #1
The fight was outstanding. H2O Man Sep 2017 #2
See this: H2O Man Sep 2017 #3
Nevada SBC Suspended Her ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #4

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
1. I blame it on the boxing gods
Sun Sep 17, 2017, 06:01 PM
Sep 2017

When H2O Man said 50-50 it was destined to be a fair draw but when True Dough forced him to pick a winner that screwed things up because now GG had to be winner but still a draw.

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
2. The fight was outstanding.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 12:42 PM
Sep 2017

My son and I watched the fight card at my brother's home. The undercard bouts were all of high quality. But, of course, it was the main event that held the most promise. We anticipated a classic, and both GGG and Canelo put forth their best efforts. Until the judges' decision was announced, we all agreed that the fight had lived up to its promise.

Between the three of us, we have over 130 years associated with boxing. Each of us has been in the ring as a fighter. Two of us have served as referee and judges in numerous bouts. Each of us has the utmost respect for both GGG and Canelo, and no one “wanted” one or the other to win. Hence, I think we were objective in watching – and scoring – the fight.

There are, of course, several factors that are involved in scoring a round of a fight. Punches landed, effective aggressiveness, and ring generalship are the obvious examples. When there are two very talented fighters, with back-and-forth action, it is often necessary to consider each of the three minutes in the round …..one man might do better in the first minute, while the other controls the next two. Or one fighter may do better for the first two minutes, while the other shines in the final minute.

An example of how this can lead to a controversial decision would be the Hagler vs Leonard fight. Boxing fans still argue about the outcome of that fight. The GGG vs Canelo bout has the same dynamics. Like Hagler-Leonard, both fighters were fully convinced they had won when that final bell rang. And those cheering for each during the fight were sure their man was victorious. For the scoring of boxing is more subjective than that of, say, basketball or football.

Before the decision was announced, all three of us scored it for GGG. I had it 7 to 5, while my son and brother had it 8 to 4. I said that Adalaide Byrd was a horrible official, who was likely to make it a split-decision by favoring Canelo, but even I was stunned by her 10 to 2 decision. That is beyond outrageous, and it is important that the commission review and over-rule her decision. Obviously, she should never be allowed to judge another boxing match.

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